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Lying is the only thing that I hate. Big lies really piss me off. Israel and traitors in the US Government have gotten away with the attack on the USS Liberty and 9/11. I know that you don't give a fuck since you hate America. You think Israel is an innocent victim of big bad America.
i dont hate America. i hate your government.

your theory about 9/11 makes no sense. you say Israel did it to get the states to fight a war for them. Afghanistan is not Israel's enemy. neither was Iraq. you really think Israel could not have destroyed Iraq if they really wanted to? they proved they can get planes in and out when they blew up the nuclear site. the states took out saddam's army in a couple weeks. Israel won a war against multiple countries in 6 fucking days! why would they not have framed Iran or Syria, a country they are still technically at war with? a country that is an actual threat, albeit a small one?

no 9/11 was carried out by Bin Laden. Bush looked the other way, yes. he has wanted to take out Saddam since his daddy failed to do the job. he wanted to prove to his pops that he is not a coke-sniffing alcoholic fuck-up
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A Brilliant Ph.D Laughs AT The Official 9/11 Story

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Zionists Want to Trick USA into WW III, World Crisis, and World Domination



In January of 2001, 9 months before the 9-11 attacks, a well known economist and political figure with worldwide intelligence connections issued the following prediction:

"A new Middle East war of the general type and implications indicated, will occur if certain specified incidents materialize. It will occur only if the combination of the Israeli government and certain Anglo-American circles wish to have it occur. If they should wish it to occur, the incidents to "explain" that occurrence, will be arranged."

"Contrary to widespread childish opinion, most of the important things that happen in the world, happen because powerful forces intend them to happen, not because of some so-called "sociological" or other statistical coincidence of the types reported for the popular edification of the easily deluded. A new Middle East war, bigger than any yet seen, is inevitable under presently reigning global influences. (1)
(emphasis added)

The man who made that prediction is the perpetual presidential "wannabe" Lyndon Larouche. Larouche may be a cult like figure with some really weird interpretations of history, but his intelligence contacts are legitimate and many of his political and economic forecasts have been accurate in the past. Considering all the history and recent events reviewed in this paper, and the logical conclusions which they lead us to, the above prediction was "right on the money."

An even more chilling prophecy was issued in 1984 by anti-Zionist Jewish author Jack Bernstein. Bernstein who warned:

"The Zionists who rule Israel and the Zionists in America have been trying to trick the U.S. into a Mideast war on the side of Israel. They almost succeeded when U.S. Marines were sent to Lebanon in 1982. The blood of the 250 American Marines who died in Lebanon is dripping from the hands of the Israeli and American Zionists."

If more Americans are not made aware of the truth about Zionist Israel, you can be sure that, sooner or later, those atheists who claim to be God's Chosen People will trick the U.S. into a Mideast war against the Arabs who in the past have always been America's best friends. Then more AmerIcan boys will die because of these clever murderous Zionists, who, incidentally, have been responsible for pushing America into World War I, World War II, as well as the Korean War and Vietnam Wars. While Zionist international bankers and other Zionist Jews were busy counting their profits for those wars, American mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters were mourning the loss of their sons and brothers. Will YOU someday be mourning the loss of your son or brother -- because of Zionist treachery?
(emphasis added) (2)

That part of Bernstein's warning has already come to pass. What's amazing is that Bernstein wrote that way back in 1984! But the other part of Bernstein's warning is far more chilling. Bernstein adds:

"At some point during the war, when the U.S. military is deeply involved and the U.S. citizens are demoralized, the Zionist-oriented Jewish international bankers will make their move. Evidence leads to the conclusion that it is these bankers who own the Class A Stock of the U.S. Federal Reserve, America's central bank. In this position of power these Zionist bankers can, and likely will, trigger an economic collapse in America -- like they did in 1929 when they caused the stock market crash and started the severe depression of the 1930's."

"Since the money system currently used in the U.S. is NOT backed by gold, silver, or anything of value, the paper dollars and tin coins now in use will be worthless. In the resulting state of confusion and in an effort to obtain food and other necessities, the American people will accept the "New States Constitution" which has already been written. This will place the American people under the dictates of one-world government run by the Zionist-oriented international bankers and Zionist/Bolshevik Jews."

Exactly what direction the war in the Mideast will take only the New York/Moscow/Tel Aviv triangle and God can know. When it is all over, the main LOSERS will be: The American people. The Arab people. Those Jews who stand for justice and freedom. The only WINNERS will be: The Zionist international bankers and the Zionist/Bolshevik Jews.(3)


The Zionists (and also other Anglo-American Internationalists) do not conceal their desire for World War III and an eventual New World Order (World Government), with American boys doing the dying. Theses are the forces that pulled off 9-11, turned us into Arab hating fanatics, put an American flag in our hands, and are marching us off to fight for Zionism. Just read what Ra'anan Gissin - a senior adviser to and spokesman for Ariel "the Butcher" Sharon - said in an interview with the Arizona Daily Star in April of 2002:

"The terror attacks on Sept. 11 and extreme turmoil in the Middle East point to one thing - World War III. We've been fighting a war for the past 18 months, which is the harbinger of World War III. The world is going to fight, whether they like it or not. I'm sure.'' (4)

Here's another warmongering, inflammatory quote from Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, urging the US to attack Iraq:

"Attacking Iraq now would be "quite dangerous, but postponing it would be more dangerous." The problem today is not if but when." (5)

And here's another warmongering quote from an editorial that former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamim Netanyahu wrote for the New York Post headlined "Today We are All Americans":

"What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of civilization.... I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, led by President Bush, will marshal the enormous reserves of power at our disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people and mobilize our collective will to eradicate this evil from the face of the earth....The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan. For the bin Ladens of the world, Israel is merely a sideshow. America is the target" (6)

Note the ominous similarity between Netanyahu's lies and the first words that Sivan Kurzberg - one of the dancing Israeli "movers" - spoke to arresting police officer on 9-11:"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (7) Very good" for Israeli-US relations. The title of the New York Times article which carried that comment was: "Spilled Blood is Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer." (8)


Ariel Sharon used the same "linking" tactic in a speech before the notoriously defamatory, Zionist Anti-Defamation League:

"There is a moral equivalency and direct connection between America's continuous operations against al Qaeda in Afghanistan and any other Israel Defense Forces operation to defeat terrorism," Sharon said in a speech Monday to the Anti-Defamation League. They are acts of self-defense against the same forces of evil and darkness bent on destroying civilized society." (9)

Notice how Sharon, Netanyahu, the Israeli "movers", and the totally Zionist dominated New York Times and New York Post all used the same strategic tactic of linking the interests of the US with the interests of Israel.The same ploy was utilized in the anthrax letters: "Death to America! Death to Israel!". Do see how these evil Zionists play the game? They turn their enemies into our enemies while pretending to be our "allies". They laugh and celebrate as 1000's of innocent Americans are burned and crushed to death. And when someone dares to shine the light of truth upon them, they label you an "anti-Semite"! Can you not see by now that these murderous swindlers have played us all for fools?

Behold this bit of bold hypocrisy by American Jewish Congress President Jack Rosen:

"I don't think Palestinians celebrating the death of thousands of Americans should go unchallenged."(10)


Is that so Jack? What about the Israelis who celebrated the death of thousands of Americans. Why haven't you challenged that? [The footage of the celebrating Palestinians was furnished by Israel. It was taken on another day, not on 9-11.]

Now read this quote from the Prince of Darkness himself - Pentagon big shot and Zionist fanatic Richard Perle:

"Neither the president nor the British Prime Minister will be deflected by Saddam's diplomatic charm offensive, the feckless moralizing of 'peace' lobbies or the unsolicited advice of retired generals." (11)

Perle not only lays down the policy line for Bush, but apparently for British Prime Minister Tony Blair as well. And note how casually he dismissed the sound advice of those retired generals who warned that a war against Iraq was unnecessary. But what does Perle care! His kids won't be dying. As always, it will only be the children of the flag waving masses, which Perle and his Zionist brothers and sisters see as nothing more than cannon fodder for Zionism, who will do the fighting and killing. What threat did Iraq ever pose to the US? None! Iraq, and other Arab nations, are to be crushed so that Israel can expand in the Middle East while the Muslims are conquered for the New World Order.

It appears that George Bush goes along with the wishes of these Zionist gangsters for his own political protection and/or advancement, but it is unclear as to what extant he is truly in agreement with them. Bush and Cheney may even be under a some form of blackmail. But they also represent oil interests and the Caspian Sea area is rich in oil and minerals. Plans have been in the works for years to build pipelines to take the oil from the Caspian, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, and then out to sea. But the "oil angle" is but a secondary contributing factor behind the "War on Terrorism", one much nearer to the hearts of Bush/Cheney than is the cause of Zionism. [Or Cheney and Bush are just power-hungry opportunists who recognize the utility of using the cudgel of Zionism- ed.]


It is clear from just the well publicized information that the president had at least some type of knowledge that a major attack was coming. Do you remember Bush's strange behavior when he was first told of the attacks? He was reading to a group of Florida school children when his Chief of Staff Andy Card whispered the news of the second tower being hit in New York. Instead of just calmly excusing himself and apologizing to the kids for having to leave suddenly, Bush quickly shifted his eyes at the camera, turned somber, and then returned to reading for another 15 minutes! (12) Our major cities were under attack, 1000's of his countrymen were burning or jumping to their deaths on live TV, and more planes were still unaccounted for. Yet Bush just sat there with a stupid look on his face and then went back to reading a story about a goat. Is this the reaction of a man who was truly surprised by these horrible attacks? Or is this more indicative of the reaction of a guilty person who, like FDR just before Pearl Harbor, was expecting an attack and therefore was not surprised? (13)

There is one more interesting coincidence worth mentioning. During the whole time that these terror attacks were expected, Bush was out of Washington DC on what the media had dubbed "the longest vacation in presidential history." Time Magazine of August 5, 2002 explains:

"Getting ready for vacation can be so hectic. It certainly was for George W. Bush last week. While Laura Bush left the White House early to get the ranch in Crawford, Texas, ready for a month-long holiday (one of the longest in presidential history), the President rushed through last-minute errands."(14)

Bush was in Texas for the entire month of August, returned to the White House briefly, then left again and ended up in a Florida classroom on September 11. (What a tough job eh?) Is this of any significance? Well, I don't know about you, but if I had the kind of intelligence network and advance warning that we know certain people had- and surely a sitting US president would also have had- I would not have been in Washington DC on 9-11 either!

There are many politicians and journalists in America who "carry the Zionist's water" for them only because they are careerists who understand very well from whence their bread is buttered. Will Bush, like Wilson in WW I, and FDR in WW II, go all the way and deliver WW III to the Zionist Mafia? At the time of this writing it does appear that way. But if Bush should hesitate (like his father did in 1991) to "go all the way", the Zionist Mafia will likely replace him in 2004.


It is truly saddening to think of how many innocent Iraqis will be killed by the Zionist Pentagon military machine, with the complicity of the Zionist media. It is the media that played the key role in demonizing Iraq in the eyes of the public. The government/media complex fabricated all the lies used to justify the decade-long sanctions that have led to deaths of as many as 1 million Iraqis as well as the continuous bombing of Iraq. Most Americans have no idea of the true level of atrocities that have been inflicted upon the population of Iraq in our name. Instead, they are spoon-fed garbage such as George W. Bush's ridiculous response to a reporter who asked him why he thought America was hated by some Arabs. Bush replied:

"Like most Americans, I just cannot believe it (that some Arabs hate us) because I know how good we are."(15)

Not a single major media commentator challenged Bush's laughable absurdity!

In the buildup to the 1991 Gulf War, the Zionist media fanned the flames of the anti-Iraq hysteria campaign by erroneously reporting that soldiers had pulled babies out of their incubators and slammed them on hospital floors during Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990- a charge that was later proven false. Once the war began, the media concealed the actual number of Iraqis killed and the destruction of Iraq's infrastructure. Iraq knows who is really behind the planned attack on their nation. In a 2002 interview with CBS's Dan Rather, Iraqi Minister Tariq Aziz accused the Zionists:

"This war which the Bush government is a planning does not serve the basic interest in the long run of the American nation. It serves the imperialistic interest of Israel and the Zionist groups who have now a great say in the American policy."(16)

How sadly ironic it is that the Arabs know that the Zionist Mafia dominates America but the American people are oblivious to it. But who will tell the American people if the Zionists dominate the media too?

Obsessed with Going to War


Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and George Bush drove America into unnecessary wars that served only the interests of the same hidden force, the New World Order.


Zionist US Senator Lieberman visits Zionist Israel's Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon


Footnotes:

1. Executive Intelligence Review. Lyndon Larouche. January 2001. Google users enter: larouche middle east war implications

2. The Life Of An American Jew In Racist-Marxist Israel. By Jack Bernstein,c 1984

3. Ibid

4. Arizona Daily Star. .":WWIII Is Coming 'Whether They Like It Or Not' -Top Sharon Aide"
By Stephanie Innes, April 27, 2002. Google users enter: gissin world war coming like or not

5. CNS News." Israel to US: Don't Wait To Attack Iraq," Report Says. August 2002. Google users enter: peres iraq attack

6. New York Post. "Today We are All Americans." by Benjamin Netanyahu. September 21, 2001. Google users enter: netanyahu today we all americans

7. ABC News20/20. ABCNews.com, June 21, 2001.Google users enter : white van Israeli spies

8. New York Times. "Spilled Blood is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer." by James Bennet. September 12, 2001. Google users enter: new york times spilled blood bond draws

9. CNN. "Sharon Compares Incursions to U.S. War on Terror." CNN.com. May 7, 2002 Google users enter: Sharon speech adl

10. The Jerusalem Post. "Jewish leaders stress Palestinians' support of attacks" by Melissa Radler. September 13, 2001. Google users enter: radler jewish congress jack rosen

11. Telegraph. (England) "Bush will act alone if need be, says Perle." by Toby Harnden in Washington, August 9, 2002. Google users enter: perle bush will act alone

12. The obscure goat story of 9-11. ecclesia.org . Google users enter: obscure goat story bush and also card bush turned somber reading

13. Day of Deceit. By Robert Stinnett. (Simon and Schuster 2001) Google users enter: robert stinnett pearl harbor

14. Time Magazine. "How George Bush Earned His Summer Vacation". by James Carney and John Dickerson. August 5, 2001. Google users enter: longest vacation in presidential history

15. "Targeting Iraq: U.S. hypocrisy and media lies". by Sharon Smith. International Socialist Review, November-December 2001

16. CBS News. Tariq Azis interview with Dan rather. August 20,2002/ Google users enter: tariq aziz dan rather
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why the pic of the dollar bill? are you saying the jews have been in control for 200 years?
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That seal was added in 1933.
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it's not a Jewish symbol. the new world order is very real. it is not the Jews though some members of the CFR, Bilderbergers and Trilateral Commission are Jewish.
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It's a Masonic symbol.
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i know it's a masonic symbol. however it was not adopted by freemasonry until 1797. it is the eye of providence and has been used for many hundreds of years. what i said was it is not a Jewish symbol
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Once you put Lyndon LaRouche into the discussion, all bets are off. I am sick to death of reading the word Jew bandied about in all these tin foil hat discussions about 9/11. If anything the close relationship between the Bush family and the royal house of Saud is every bit as scary as the stranglehold on our Middle Eastern foreign policy by AIPAC. It's all too easy to come up with quack theories that require no proof, I prefer to work with what I already know: that the Bushies received a memo weeks before September 11 stating that Al Qaeda was determined to strike on US soil and did absolutely nothing about it. As far as I can tell, they allowed 9/11 to occur as an excuse for war in Afghanistan and eventually Iraq, enriching their friends and allies in the defense and oil industries in the process. This notion that America is some hapless victim of a vast Zionist conspiracy is utter bullshit. There are plenty of scary, powerful war mongers in the US capable of lies and mass murder. I'd like to remind a few of the Jew haters here that to Israel's credit, they've recently held third party mediated talks with Syria and Hamas, in direct defiance of orders from that bitch Condi Rice. It's a groos oversimplification to assume that all roads lead back to Israel, our foreign and economic policies are determined by a wide variety of plutocrats from every corner of the globe.
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Once you put Lyndon LaRouche into the discussion, all bets are off. I am sick to death of reading the word Jew bandied about in all these tin foil hat discussions about 9/11. If anything the close relationship between the Bush family and the royal house of Saud is every bit as scary as the stranglehold on our Middle Eastern foreign policy by AIPAC. It's all too easy to come up with quack theories that require no proof, I prefer to work with what I already know: that the Bushies received a memo weeks before September 11 stating that Al Qaeda was determined to strike on US soil and did absolutely nothing about it. As far as I can tell, they allowed 9/11 to occur as an excuse for war in Afghanistan and eventually Iraq, enriching their friends and allies in the defense and oil industries in the process. This notion that America is some hapless victim of a vast Zionist conspiracy is utter bullshit. There are plenty of scary, powerful war mongers in the US capable of lies and mass murder. I'd like to remind a few of the Jew haters here that to Israel's credit, they've recently held third party mediated talks with Syria and Hamas, in direct defiance of orders from that bitch Condi Rice. It's a groos oversimplification to assume that all roads lead back to Israel, our foreign and economic policies are determined by a wide variety of plutocrats from every corner of the globe.
i laugh my ass off when these people worship larouche and david duke and then turn around and say "i dont hate Jews"
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