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Old 10-15-2008, 05:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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You don't realize that's just within one local police department. You obviosly don't have a strong grasp of how American institutions work.

Give it up.
You are such a blind individual always with the cant, yet history is full of can's.

Like others when confronted with facts they avoid, or claim that they are the exception. Regardless of an "incident" it is how those in charge address the "incidents" that are relevant. If those in charge only react when they are exposed and otherwise cover up incidents they are complicit in the act...

The Mayor incident was in Maryland...
The State Police incident was in Maryland....
My incident was in Virginia...
The "Dont taser me bro" incident....

You sir do not have a firm grasp on reality, I actually hope your fantasy comes true and I do eat my words. That we are not being "conditioned"....
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:43 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I hope that, that is the case, why not bring back the State's National Guard then ?.
Maybe you already answered that yourself -The difference between regular Army putting down a civil uprising and the National Guard is that the Guard might understand the regional culture better

I have no doubt your system is corrupt and abused, you only have to look at your jails to see that. I read your story and man you were Railroaded, last year my 22 yo nephew (whose also Bi-Polar) during a drunken argument outside a bar with his girlfriend, punched an officer in the face when he tried to intervene, his punishment was no more than a good behaviour bond, legal costs, and a ban on drinking in public areas.
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You are such a blind individual always with the cant, yet history is full of can's.

If you served in a military I highly doubt it was the U.S. military.

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Like others when confronted with facts they avoid, or claim that they are the exception. Regardless of an "incident" it is how those in charge address the "incidents" that are relevant. If those in charge only react when they are exposed and otherwise cover up incidents they are complicit in the act...

The Mayor incident was in Maryland...
The State Police incident was in Maryland....
My incident was in Virginia...
The "Dont taser me bro" incident....

You sir do not have a firm grasp on reality, I actually hope your fantasy comes true and I do eat my words. That we are not being "conditioned"....
yawn...
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:28 PM   #54 (permalink)
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If you served in a military I highly doubt it was the U.S. military.

yawn...
I can make the same claim of you. You have not identified the period you were in, duty stations or regions. You appear to be a wanna be - partially programmed washed out, living vicariously through those that made it.

You talk in absolutes and the propaganda of the programming. Your thoughts are that of a puppy, with a little "learning" but no experience.

Your learning is unformed too. For example in this thread I have provided incidents that appear to demonstrate a "trend". My/our experiences I can provide material that supports my conclusions, basically that the institutions you claim will protect you are compromised. This exposes the population to abuse, whether it is a cop on the street that choses not to like you or an initiative out to collect those that have been identified as "people of interest". These incidents are increasing under the guise of protecting the population.

My main goal is to force the Virginia State Bar to ensure client leverage over its members. So that if someone else has an experience like ours have been, when they hire an attorney that attorney will represent them diligently, will review material provided and then execute the best strategy available. The institution does not ensure this at this time, it implemented a policy of avoidance in 2000, strategy, the service provided by its members is not addressed.

If the attorney population will not engage or just processes the clients the citizens are not protected. Trends cascade, respect for the system declines, events increase, social structure collapses.

The bottom line is that I can provided my Honorable, can you ? I can support what I say, you are just a bunch of hot air, you are a REPUBLICAN.....
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..... I can support what I say, you are just a bunch of hot air, you are a REPUBLICAN.....
Now that's the worst name calling I have ever heard here
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my only advice would be IF this supposed civil uprising did happen
stay behind the tanks.!
BTW El presidente will most likley leave the oval office leaving it like he found it, minus a few pens and a stapler,leaving only an SBD behind (pun intended)
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:08 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Maybe you already answered that yourself -The difference between regular Army putting down a civil uprising and the National Guard is that the Guard might understand the regional culture better

I have no doubt your system is corrupt and abused, you only have to look at your jails to see that. I read your story and man you were Railroaded, last year my 22 yo nephew (whose also Bi-Polar) during a drunken argument outside a bar with his girlfriend, punched an officer in the face when he tried to intervene, his punishment was no more than a good behaviour bond, legal costs, and a ban on drinking in public areas.
Punching the officer really doing his duty was wrong, if it was a medical problem from the Bi-Polar condition the Judge should have made the appropriate judgment.

Here is a funny one of my neighbors got upset with someone. They cut all four of their tires, assaulted them with a knife, assaulted an officer and escaped into the woods in addition he was a felon. He spent less time in jail than I did for our CVS / hospital incident. When he got out I talked to him, he laughed and told me "shit man, sell some weed, buy a fancy attorney, sweet talk the judge and get off". I was at the disadvantage I didnt have any weed to sell so that I could buy a good attorney, didnt have the opportunity to "sweet" talk to the judge. If I was knowingly committing illegal activities I would include the "purchase of the law" as an expense of doing business - the advantage is given to the "criminal".

If you read the junk on my site, then you know that my claim is that I am "innocent" and I can support it. According to our process when I hire an attorney, provide them with material they are supposed to use it to defend their client. According to letters I received from the Bar this failure to engage is "strategy", it does not address strategy, the client is told that they can hire another attorney to address. Asking another attorney results in the strategy response again and cost is brought up.

The Bar does not collect such complaints so the Bar has no idea of the diligence of its populations, this claim is false, the metric is not maintained. Citizens researching their prospective representation have no idea of the diligence of the member. Has the member demonstrated bias, bad hair days, conflict of interest or negligence ? In 1999 the Virginia State Bar chose avoidance, note the old Canon's.
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my only advice would be IF this supposed civil uprising did happen
stay behind the tanks.!
BTW El presidente will most likley leave the oval office leaving it like he found it, minus a few pens and a stapler,leaving only an SBD behind (pun intended)
We have "Hope"....
Lets "Hope" we lose the losers
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Now that's the worst name calling I have ever heard here
Like that
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one more thing.. who do you think would be the most likley to start this supposed civil unrest?
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