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Old 03-13-2008, 08:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Then don't vote for him. Do whatever the fuck you want. Go vote for McSame so we can get on with the crusade against Islam.

Don't come crying to Obama supporters when our military death toll passes 10,000 in the year 2012.
After McInsane bomb, bomb, bombs Iran ,the death toll will climb very quickly. Perhaps as much here as there. I say by 2012 with the new Bushco representative in office I say 250,000 dead; here, in the U.S.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Not like there has been any animosity and divisiveness in this primary, or name calling, accusations of racism, dirty tactics and underhanded maneuvering. So if Obama wants to win.......how does he get my vote and the other Clinton supporters?

As it stands right now......many of my friends (as well as me) plan on re-registering as independents now. My best friend said something to me that made me really think. Obama supporters have gone out of their way to humiliate Clinton supporters and push them away. If they think they can win a Presidential election with out us.......maybe we should just let them go without our support. Is there any real reason to throw our support behind a candidate that doesn't speak to us.......or more importantly.....why should we now just forgive and forget and fall in line. If we don't like Obama why should we vote for him in the general election? I have toyed with the idea of voting for McCain....it disgust me too much right now to do it, but what makes people think that Obama can win with just his own supporters. He needs the support of a majority of America to win the general election and I have no reason at this point to do so.

Is there a compelling argument to make all of us back someone just because they are a Democrat when deep in our souls we believe he does not stand for what we believe in and distrust him so much.
Dr. Z, I found your post very enlightening. It seems that we are at an impasse. How will Hillary do it without us. What is striking is that you are opposed to Obama because of his supporters, and those who oppose Hillary do so because they are opposed to her. I find this very interesting. There is more passion on our side because we reject the candidate which makes it more angry. Opposing his ardent supporters does not in any way discount Obama. What has he done in his campaign that has so offended you? I can name many things Hillary herself or Bill have done to offend me.

Maybe you should think about that for a minute or any other person supporting Hillary refusing to vote for Obama.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Not like there has been any animosity and divisiveness in this primary, or name calling, accusations of racism, dirty tactics and underhanded maneuvering. So if Obama wants to win.......how does he get my vote and the other Clinton supporters?

As it stands right now......many of my friends (as well as me) plan on re-registering as independents now. My best friend said something to me that made me really think. Obama supporters have gone out of their way to humiliate Clinton supporters and push them away. If they think they can win a Presidential election with out us.......maybe we should just let them go without our support. Is there any real reason to throw our support behind a candidate that doesn't speak to us.......or more importantly.....why should we now just forgive and forget and fall in line. If we don't like Obama why should we vote for him in the general election? I have toyed with the idea of voting for McCain....it disgust me too much right now to do it, but what makes people think that Obama can win with just his own supporters. He needs the support of a majority of America to win the general election and I have no reason at this point to do so.

Is there a compelling argument to make all of us back someone just because they are a Democrat when deep in our souls we believe he does not stand for what we believe in and distrust him so much.
Nice post ! I dislike the B.O. supporters just as much as B.O. himself, and I refuse to give them a bone. However, I also have been having second thoughts in general about being a registered democrat, not only because of Obama and his minions, but because of other things that have happened at my local level with my city council (that's a story in itself!). Also, the election of the dems in 2006. But overall, its Clinton first for me, then McCain. I always liked McCain anyway.

But don't worry - MARK MY WORDS. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. Clinton will win the nomination.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Nice post ! I dislike the B.O. supporters just as much as B.O. himself, and I refuse to give them a bone. However, I also have been having second thoughts in general about being a registered democrat, not only because of Obama and his minions, but because of other things that have happened at my local level with my city council (that's a story in itself!). Also, the election of the dems in 2006. But overall, its Clinton first for me, then McCain. I always liked McCain anyway.

But don't worry - MARK MY WORDS. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. Clinton will win the nomination.


This is refreshing. You don't often see a woman that is this...>cough<...'enlightened'.


Just curious, what exactly do you find so dislikable about B.O.




(I don't count Ann Coulter as an actual woman.)

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(I don't count Ann Coulter as an actual woman.)
Huh? What?
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Just curious, what exactly do you find so dislikable about B.O.
Lots of things.
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If you dont like Obama, then go back to roost and vote for McCain.
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Simple. Vote for who you think would nominate the Supreme Court Justices who whould most fit your views. It's the most important thing a president does, and has the most far-reaching affect on your life. (with the exception of starting illegal wars and bankrupting the nation.)
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This is refreshing. You don't often see a woman that is this...>cough<...'enlightened'.


Just curious, what exactly do you find so dislikable about B.O.
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Lots of things.




Lots of things.






Well. You convinced ME!



Just so I'm not misunderstood, by the ">cough<...'enlightened'" was in no way referring to your preference of Clinton. I think it's fine that you support Clinton, especially over McBush. The comment was in reference to your statement that you not only hate the most charismatic politician to come along in decades, but also hate the tens of millions of Americans that support him.

That's the kind of stuff I usually only hear from guys.
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She fears the black man. Probably a white middle class, middle aged woman who won't board a city bus cause the driver is black.
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