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You misread my post. I said I cannot imagine anyone being PRO-ABORTION unless they were in need of one. I steer away from pro-choice because it has been relegated into the vague but inclusive list of politically charged words: socialism, pro-choice, People's Anything.

Since the Holy Rollers are definitive players in the anti-abortion, pro-life-until-its-walking-around game, I elect to focus on Free Will...which is God-given. As well, the moment we attach 'pro' to anything, there is a disturbing implication that it is 'for' everyone. Pro-abortion...everyone line up to have one. Pro-gay marriage, everyone must, what, send a gift? Pro-Free Will...your business, leave me out of it, I have problems enough of my own. Ditto, I should think, regarding MY business...I scarcely have time enough to mind my affairs, I am incredulous that anyone else would try to add my personal issues to their overly full and poorly balanced plates.

I haven't time just now to read the balance of your post but I will suggest this: there is much grist for the mill in Society's accommodation of infidelity. If sex matters not in marriage between members of opposite sex, as we increasingly see that it does not, it diffuses arguments over sex between partners of the same sex.

Look, too, to the tax benefits of marriage for a clue to the vehemence of Hardright against granting the perks to all and sundry. They always want the lion's share of the perks, as you have likely noticed in even 19 brief years.

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Veronica

Welcome to the site. The longer you are here or the more you invest in reading some of the threads you will get to know some of these characters on our board. I am not gay and am all for gay marriage.

I think people of strong religious background are threatened by homosexuality and that fear drives their prejudice. Fear is what holds everyone back from being their true potential as a human being. These people are less evolved end of story. Full legal rights and benefits should be given to all citizens of the US, not just the straight ones.

Good luck on your paper.

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...particularly by their OWN homosexual impulses. Those laws have been promulgated as much to control themselves as to control others, I increasingly suspect.

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has us spending nine...or maybe twelve, no one seems to know...BILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH in Iraq.

If we weren't squandering so many resources on foreign soil and oil...and I do mean SQUANDERING-READ-THAT-WASTING...we wouldn't be so worried about granting legal legitimacy to people about whom we don't otherwise give any more of a shit than we do about any other group that doesn't include us.

Legal legitimacy confers a host of legal benefits. Loophole is one word, in case you use it in your paper.

Always follow the money.

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Xcaezarx,

Assuming this paper will touch on the Defense of Marriage Act, how will your paper touch on plural marriage? After all, it is another form of marriage that is recognized in other parts of the world and it is specifically mentioned along with Gay Marriage in the DOMA.

And for the record, I'm all for allowing gays and plurally married individuals to have the same rights accorded to conventionally married folks, including the ability to divorce and be held financially responsible for that action.

Vicariously I

I agree with this.

The reason for being gay doesn't matter and yet it seems to be the bases for argument against it.

Is it genetics? Is it natural? Is it a choice? Is it against Gods laws? Who fucking cares one way or the other? I do know that it is not a choice, it's who people are but seriously who cares if it was?

We live in a country where people are suppose to be free and have the same civil rights and liberties as everyone else.

We live in a country that says we can believe in whatever god we want to yet every time something conflicts with Christian views the government steps in.

What the fuck????

Can this country possibly find a way to contradict what we say we are with what we actually do any more then we already have???

This is just another example of the fear the has been driven into the minds of people all thanks to the wonders of religion.

If God was real he would be disgusted with what his religion has done to the world.

In other words this is a battle between those who have evolved and those who still chose to live with their eyes closed.

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Vicariously I

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I spy partnership agreements.

WHY ON EARTH DO MARRIED PEOPLE ENJOY ANY RECOGNITION/ADVANTAGE OVER SINGLE PEOPLE?

Because they consistently turn out future model citizens and otherwise abidingly contribute more to society?

I AM touring the country, and I cannot say I have much encountered such Marrieds.

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Just wondering here, do you read the items you respond to?

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Yep.

Where did I lose you?

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I think you got lost, the post specifically asked a question about whether or not his paper will touch on plural marriage. You see, it was a question to Xcaezarx.