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Old 03-20-2008, 10:55 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think you got lost, the post specifically asked a question about whether or not his paper will touch on plural marriage. You see, it was a question to Xcaezarx.
God forbid...in fact, write a law...there shall be no widening of discussions nor inclusion of more views.

You will observe that the tired arguments that have been mounted year after year have NOT accomplished the goal, if the goal is ultimately like rights and benefits for all people.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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God forbid...in fact, write a law...there shall be no widening of discussions nor inclusion of more views.

You will observe that the tired arguments that have been mounted year after year have NOT accomplished the goal, if the goal is ultimately like rights and benefits for all people.
You do realize this is a kid writing an English paper, right? I asked him a question. That's all.

I'm not opposed to drinking in the morning, but if you are going to drink, then try to keep your rants on topic or to at least not interrupt a question.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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You do realize this is a kid writing an English paper, right? I asked him a question. That's all.

I'm not opposed to drinking in the morning, but if you are going to drink, then try to keep your rants on topic or to at least not interrupt a question.
Haven't had a drink in years, though I am daily reminded why I USED to drink.

I DO see, now, how your addressed is specifically to this new member, who is now forewarned that posting here a bit of a blood sport. Whaddya think...a 19-year-old can't handle a conversation with more than one person at a time? In future, maybe you should start with Dear Whoever, and sign off with Yours truly, guest1234567...that way, everyone will be clear it's PRIVATE.


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Xcaezarx,

Assuming this paper will touch on the Defense of Marriage Act, how will your paper touch on plural marriage? After all, it is another form of marriage that is recognized in other parts of the world and...
MOREOVER, since I already eavesdropped, you make an assumption about the paper, then ask HOW...not whether...it will touch on plural marriage, whereafter your remarks could be inferred to advocate the legitimacy of marriages featuring multiple partners.

And, voila, I spy partnership contracts among people rather than commitments that turn out to have benefits without binding responsibilities and which favor members of those non-committed commitments over others in the population.

It's called connecting the dots, punk, and 19-year-olds will DEFINITELY want to learn how to do that.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:20 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I think gay marriage shouldn't even be an "issue". The government needs to stay out of peoples' bedrooms, and people need to stop judging Gays. I'm all for Gay marriage or adoption.

Anyone that thinks a Gay won't make a great spouse or parent has their head in the 16th century. (I'm trying hard not to mention religious zealots here.)
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:36 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Haven't had a drink in years, though I am daily reminded why I USED to drink.
Good for you, I truly mean that. Keep it up.

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I DO see, now, how your addressed is specifically to this new member, who is now forewarned that posting here a bit of a blood sport. Whaddya think...a 19-year-old can't handle a conversation with more than one person at a time? In future, maybe you should start with Dear Whoever, and sign off with Yours truly, guest1234567...that way, everyone will be clear it's PRIVATE.
I'm sure the kid can handle a conversation with more than one person, so I of course have no problem if you respond to him if you wish


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MOREOVER, since I already eavesdropped, you make an assumption about the paper, then ask HOW...not whether...it will touch on plural marriage, whereafter your remarks could be inferred to advocate the legitimacy of marriages featuring multiple partners.
My question was exactly whether it would touch on this subject. My follow up question, if necessary, will depend on his answer.

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And, voila, I spy partnership contracts among people rather than commitments that turn out to have benefits without binding responsibilities and which favor members of those non-committed commitments over others in the population.
Marriage of any type should only be entered with the understanding of the commitment that is involved. The overall binding responsiblity is "till death do you part." It seems that a lot of people don't quite think that one matters. But anyway, there is also the "In sickness and in health" part of it. At the top of anyone's list who supports gay marriage is the legal and moral ability to be part of the decision making for a loved one who is undergoing medical procedures. Personally, if the person whom I love wouldn't marry me, then I don't want them to make these decisions. However, if the person would marry me, then they need the ability to do so.


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It's called connecting the dots, punk, and 19-year-olds will DEFINITELY want to learn how to do that.
heh, heh, punk!
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:39 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think gay marriage shouldn't even be an "issue". The government needs to stay out of peoples' bedrooms, and people need to stop judging Gays. I'm all for Gay marriage or adoption.

Anyone that thinks a Gay won't make a great spouse or parent has their head in the 16th century. (I'm trying hard not to mention religious zealots here.)
Why beat around the bush?

I didn't in my post.

Religion is the "moral" anchor that keeps us rooted in all that is wrong with the world.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I say NO to gay marriage. I also say NO to all marriage. Marriage is religious garbage, always was, and always will be. It serves no function, and is a breach of the separation of church and state.

What do you think? Good for a college paper?
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:51 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I say NO to gay marriage. I also say NO to all marriage. Marriage is religious garbage, always was, and always will be. It serves no function, and is a breach of the separation of church and state.

What do you think? Good for a college paper?
So you really don't care who has the legal right to make medical decisions for you? Marriage does not have to be religious, ask any justice of the peace. The power is invested to him by the state, not by a god.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:24 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Marriage is a legal contract that some couples choose to have recognized and honored in the church of their choice.

We are so puritanical here in the US -- Europe is way more advanced on subjects like this. But eventually, because marriage is a legal device, gay marriage will become legalized here, it is protected by the 14th amendment to the US Constitution.

Civil unions, while a nice compromise to some, or a chicken-shit cop-out to others, ultimately will be held unconstitutional, and only full marriage rights will prevail.

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Marriage is a legal contract that some couples choose to have recognized and honored in the church of their choice.
But marriage is an institution regulated by the state. You don't have to marry in a church, but you do have to register your marriage with the state.

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We are so puritanical here in the US -- Europe is way more advanced on subjects like this. But eventually, because marriage is a legal device, gay marriage will become legalized here, it is protected by the 14th amendment to the US Constitution.
I wouldn't be so sure about Europe. Spain is going through some really tough times about this now. I seriously doubt Italy will ever allow gay marriage. England only supports civil unions.
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