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Old 03-27-2008, 01:12 PM   #101 (permalink)
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One more time: a "racist" is a person or people who have the power to inflict their opinions, cultures, norms, dress, religion-langauge-etc. on another people without the other people having anything at all to say about what has happended to them.
So I can hate and stereotype all I want, and because I have no power to "inflict" that upon an ethinic group of (fill in the blank), I'm not a racist?! Cool.


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As soon as you whites tell us exactly when Africans or anyone else ever forced you to adopt their norms, please:
let us Black people know?
We sure would like to enjoy all the perks of being racists: as whites have and do.

So far, all we caught is hell for our Blackness.
Well, I soon as [underline, italicize, bold] I [slashB, slashI, slashU] find out I'll tell you!
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Old 03-27-2008, 04:27 PM   #102 (permalink)
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You have again failed to answer the question, typical. Yes or NO? Or is that to difficult for you to answer? I know it is for your cheerleading section, but I thought you might have the stones to answer.
What question do you wish for me to answer?
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I got this off Michael Savage's web site:

"Recognizing The Race Hustlers: There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles , they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his greivances, because they do not want to lose their jobs." -- Booker T. Washington (c.1911)

Does anyone doubt that this goes on today?
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:14 PM   #104 (permalink)
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So I can hate and stereotype all I want, and because I have no power to "inflict" that upon an ethinic group of (fill in the blank), I'm not a racist?! Cool.
Where did I say or infer such? Your myopia will not let you differentiate gratuitous white racism from other utterly human bigotry and associations which involve hubris and personal antagonism.
Serbs Vs Croats for example.
In the Mediterranean, Greeks and Turks.
Same people more or less but their hatreds of each other are not based primarily or substantially on their race, but their religion or religious choices.
In Africa, Tutsis' murder Hutu, not because of their race-but tribe.
Each instance cited above is as venal, as ignorant as white racism.
The differences of course being neither can gratuitously inflict their hatreds on others.

What you and most others miss (or willfully ignore) is America's white racism targets people of color, Black people in particular.
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Well, I soon as [underline, italicize, bold] I [slashB, slashI, slashU] find out I'll tell you!
Sorry: you don't have the power to inflict your views on anyone.
You are powerless to make anyone do anything.
You, like most, are woefully underpowered in the "influence" department.
FYI: never begin a sentence with the word "well": doing so marks one as ...ah hell...
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:23 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I got this off Michael Savage's web site:

"Recognizing The Race Hustlers: There is a class of colored people
Another reason no one should read or listen to this political hack/twerp. Citing arcane, antiquated language as a source for modern conversations.
"Colored people"? "Colored people died the day people of African heritage living in this country decided "Black" would fit them perfectly.
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...who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles , they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his greivances, because they do not want to lose their jobs." -- Booker T. Washington (c.1911)
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Does anyone doubt that this goes on today?
I'm curious as to why you chose this to quote, instead of noting his 1895 Atlanta speach?
You must demonstrate the persons you (by inference) are gratuitously indicting and by doing so, demeaning: names and occupations please.
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:31 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Another reason no one should read or listen to this political hack/twerp. Citing arcane, antiquated language as a source for modern conversations.
"Colored people"? "Colored people died the day people of African heritage living in this country decided "Black" would fit them perfectly.
This quote was from Booker T. Washington.....not Michael Savage.


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I'm curious as to why you chose this to quote, instead of noting his 1895 Atlanta speach?
You must demonstrate the persons you (by inference) are gratuitously indicting and by doing so, demeaning: names and occupations please.
I feel the quote of Booker T. Washington is as accurate today as it was in 1911. The names that come up very quickly that profit from Blacks having problems is Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, let us throw in Wright. Do you doubt these men would be as wealthy today had they not exploited the Black race and their problems? These are just individuals who are merely con-men. What should really upset the Black race in America is the way the Democratic party has been just as guilty using every opportunity to scream "racist" to gain support of the Blacks in this country.
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What question do you wish for me to answer?
For the third time; Strom Thurmond = dead racist guy.

and by modern-day rules of guilt by associaition, Trent Lott is also.
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For the third time; Strom Thurmond = dead racist guy.

and by modern-day rules of guilt by associaition, Trent Lott is also.
That is not a question.

If you use your definition then since Wright is a racist then Obama is a racist by modern-day rules of guilt by association. I do not thnk that is the correct way to look at it.
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Where did I say or infer such?
I belive when you said:

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One more time: a "racist" is a person or people who have the power to inflict their opinions, cultures, norms, dress, religion-langauge-etc. on another people without the other people having anything at all to say about what has happended to them.
By setting the condition of having power to inflict that mindset you implicitly absolve all those who are racist but have no authority to do said "infliction." Unless that is not what you meant to say?



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Your myopia will not let you differentiate gratuitous white racism from other utterly human bigotry and associations which involve hubris and personal antagonism.
Gratuitous? I find hubris usually follows a sense of entitlement and superiority, whether real or imagined.



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Serbs Vs Croats for example.
In the Mediterranean, Greeks and Turks.
Same people more or less but their hatreds of each other are not based primarily or substantially on their race, but their religion or religious choices.
In Africa, Tutsis' murder Hutu, not because of their race-but tribe.
I think a better example, by your own definition would be the Catholic Irish of the latter half of the past millenium. From the dispossession of their land to the Penal Codes to An Gorta Mor the bill is fit down the line. These examples are just ethnic hatred and economic competition. My god man, the Tutsis weren't trying to "inflict" a belief system upon their unfortunate neighbors, they were fucking, then killing or just fucking killing them.

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Each instance cited above is as venal, as ignorant as white racism.
The differences of course being neither can gratuitously inflict their hatreds on others.
Machettes inflicted their weilders hatred quite effectively.


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What you and most others miss (or willfully ignore) is America's white racism targets people of color, Black people in particular.
No? Do tell! I never knew that. Gee I thought it was really Episcopalians being lynched, and No Episcopalians Need Apply and Episcopalians Only signs over drinking fountians. Damn, learn something new everyday.


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Sorry: you don't have the power to inflict your views on anyone.
You are powerless to make anyone do anything.
You, like most, are woefully underpowered in the "influence" department.
FYI: never begin a sentence with the word "well": doing so marks one as ...ah hell...
Come on, ...as ?.... don't pussy out now. Speak your mind. Regale me with tales of my ineffectiveness and impotence. Come on big man.
Fucking impress me!
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That is not a question.

If you use your definition then since Wright is a racist then Obama is a racist by modern-day rules of guilt by association. I do not thnk that is the correct way to look at it.
Thought you would recognize this little symbol [=] which makes it a true/false query. I don't subscribe to the modern day rules of guilt by association. But Lott didn't just associate with Thurmond, he praised him and his segregationist agenda. Obama has denounced, rejected and repudiated. Slight difference.
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