For the Press, No Iraq Introspection

ppatt · 03-31-2008, 03:31 AM

I just noticed that there is no forum on serious media. That's not to diminish the importance of fake news and it's transcendence over real news for being in sync with public sentiment. Still, I'd like a special place we can all go to for taking good hard whacks to the collective heads of MSM.

Why not?

So I found a decent article in Mother Jones which asks why should the media be excepted from an examination of their role in helping to make the IRaq war possible? But who would make that examination? MSM has the built-in excuse that it would not be right for them to make the story about themselves.

LOL!!! I bet they feel that way. Let me see, Judith Miller, Tim Russert, Matthew Cooper and many, many more found religion and would not dare make themselves the story.

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Originally Posted by Greg Mitchell, Mother Jones

In the thousands of articles and television reports marking the fifth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, nearly every important aspect of the war was probed. Fingers were pointed at the usual suspects—Rumsfeld, Bremer, and Cheney; stubborn Republicans and weak-willed Democrats, among many others—but conspicuously absent from the media coverage was any soul-searching on behalf of the press, as if there had been no major media slips or tragic omissions over the past five years. With months to plan for the commemoration, the media were ready to take stock of everything—but themselves.

to the full article...

cheapseats · 03-31-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ppatt

to the full article...

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And in recent months, why are there so few reporters covering the war now? Are budgetary excuses—and blaming readers for not being much interested anymore—really valid? Do readers take their cues from the (increasingly disinterested) media?

Stateside media is all abuzz with our fast-paced, issue-driven, emotionally-compelling, politically-gripping, TWO-YEAR popularity contest for president...the one in which everyone pays lip service to ending a war just as soon as we can get some money back in everyone's pockets. First things first.

Budgetary excuses? I cannot say I have noticed any scrimping and saving among telejournalists, nor have I read about an erosion of network profits. But their tax rebate checks are in the mail...that oughtta help.

Readers? That's so last millennium...we've got VIEWERS. The journalists are now readers, of prepared texts. And the answer is yes, viewers DO take their cues from frivolous jokester information celebrities who read the "news."

It's like a computer game...not Grand Theft Auto, but Grand Theft America.

ppatt · 03-31-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cheapseats

Stateside media is all abuzz with our fast-paced, issue-driven, emotionally-compelling, politically-gripping, TWO-YEAR popularity contest for president...the one in which everyone pays lip service to ending a war just as soon as we can get some money back in everyone's pockets. First things first.

Budgetary excuses? I cannot say I have noticed any scrimping and saving among telejournalists, nor have I read about an erosion of network profits. But their tax rebate checks are in the mail...that oughtta help.

Readers? That's so last millennium...we've got VIEWERS. The journalists are now readers, of prepared texts. And the answer is yes, viewers DO take their cues from frivolous jokester information celebrities who read the "news."

It's like a computer game...not Grand Theft Auto, but Grand Theft America.

You should sell the idea for that game. If this were yesteryear it would be a board game a la candyland. Let me see, instead of Mollasses Swamp, Lollypop Woods and Gumdrop Mountains there would be Airport Bathroom Rendevous (gay), the scorching Callgirl Desert, Sea of War Profiteers, and Pension Raiders of the Lost Park. If you land on a black spot the Evil Cheney might eat you alive.

Parents would let their kids play with this one as it has all become so commonplace and accepted.

Market it. You'll make tons.

BillCosby · 03-31-2008, 10:00 AM

I have seen a few documentaries on this & I agree whole heartedly but there was a few exceptions........The so called dissident press, other word sources & knight ridder.... AN outside the beltway media company w/ unfortunately little influence & out of the big loops like ap etc............

ppatt · 03-31-2008, 10:34 AM

absolutely. thanks for pointing that out. I should always add 2 caveats to all my posts...maybe in a signature to avoid repetition --

I could be wrong
some, maybe most, but not all

BillCosby · 03-31-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ppatt

absolutely. thanks for pointing that out. I should always add 2 caveats to all my posts...maybe in a signature to avoid repetition --

I could be wrong
some, maybe most, but not all

That goes w/ out saying & IMO applies to us all.......... I often bash the media wholeheartedly or is that cold heartedly....

Anyway they were the lone exception in the main stream. & I only recently found that out as most of our sources are all controlled by the big players...

The exception does not define the rule. The corp media is worthless......... lying propaganda that gets played & gets paid.........

cheapseats · 03-31-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ppatt

You should sell the idea for that game. If this were yesteryear it would be a board game a la candyland. Let me see, instead of Mollasses Swamp, Lollypop Woods and Gumdrop Mountains there would be Airport Bathroom Rendevous (gay), the scorching Callgirl Desert, Sea of War Profiteers, and Pension Raiders of the Lost Park. If you land on a black spot the Evil Cheney might eat you alive.

Parents would let their kids play with this one as it has all become so commonplace and accepted.

Market it. You'll make tons.

Least Wanted decks of cards would sell briskly as stocking stuffers, I think.

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