The problem with the media

julia · 04-04-2008, 10:39 AM

First of all, according to a noprofit NGO, the US ranks 58th in the Press Freedom Index.

Every American needs to be aware of this fact and questioning of most if not all American media.

Reporters sans frontières - Annual Worldwide Press Freedom Index - 2006

Rigged · 04-04-2008, 10:52 AM

Yeah...well that is not really surprising...if you really get down to it what characterizes a free society? Most people will say a free-press, free to criticize the gov't.

I mean that whole Scooter Libby, and the wiretapping thing should be pretty damning evidence that our press is far from being "free"

Vicariously I · 04-04-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigged

Yeah...well that is not really surprising...if you really get down to it what characterizes a free society? Most people will say a free-press, free to criticize the gov't.

I mean that whole Scooter Libby, and the wiretapping thing should be pretty damning evidence that our press is far from being "free"

Oh no it's free alright. Free to buy, free to manipulate for your own purposes.

It's all in how you look at it really.

julia · 04-04-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicariously I

Oh no it's free alright. Free to buy, free to manipulate for your own purposes.

It's all in how you look at it really.

Exactly, it's as if our vote with our feet as consumers are more imp than our vote in the ballot box.

Vicariously I · 04-04-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by julia

Exactly, it's as if our vote with our feet as consumers are more imp than our vote in the ballot box.

Yeah, we had the media discussion back on RT and my opinion is still the same.

The problem with the media is certainly money, as is the problem with everything in this country. Every society starts out with great intentions as ours did at the hands of people who were tired of living in an oppressive world. However as those feelings of dedication to the cause fade and generation after generation of those who have no connection to those feelings are born the cause is lost and replaced with arrogance from those who did not have to earn their freedoms.

We're likes kids who have no respect for their things as we did not have to work for them. This is were RKWM is correct in that the problem with the media is money but the true problem and overall harm being done falls on us and not the media. We can blame money for the reason our healthcare system is so messed up. Why we are given drug after drug to try and solve all kinds of things, which leads to more deaths a year then Meth, Crack and Heroine combined. Why our politician’s care more about what large corporations think then what we think. But in the end, all of these problems begin and end with us.

ROBERT M. HUTCHINS:
“The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.”

This is either our country or theirs. If it’s ours, then you and I are the only ones to blame for the state of things. Corruption from money and power are nothing more then after effects of our indifference.

Rollerball · 04-04-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicariously I

Oh no it's free alright. Free to buy, free to manipulate for your own purposes.

It's all in how you look at it really.

Used to be free. Used to be respectful. Used to have integrity!

Can you imagine the likes of Rush Limbaugh or any of the other two dozen hateful loudmouths on the air today getting any kind of job in media 30 years ago?

I think I found where it started. Once again we have Ronald Reagan to thank.

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In 1984, Limbaugh returned to radio as a talk show host at KFBK in Sacramento, California, where he replaced Morton Downey, Jr.[2] The repeal of the Fairness Doctrine—which had required that stations provide free air time for responses to any controversial opinions that were broadcast—by the FCC in 1987 meant stations could broadcast editorial commentary without having to present opposing views. Daniel Henninger wrote, in a Wall Street Journal editorial, "Ronald Reagan tore down this wall (the Fairness Doctrine) in 1987...and Rush Limbaugh was the first man to proclaim himself liberated from the East Germany of liberal media domination."

Rush Limbaugh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

julia · 04-04-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicariously I

Yeah, we had the media discussion back on RT and my opinion is still the same.

The problem with the media is certainly money, as is the problem with everything in this country. Every society starts out with great intentions as ours did at the hands of people who were tired of living in an oppressive world. However as those feelings of dedication to the cause fade and generation after generation of those who have no connection to those feelings are born the cause is lost and replaced with arrogance from those who did not have to earn their freedoms.
We're likes kids who have no respect for their things as we did not have to work for them. This is were RKWM is correct in that the problem with the media is money but the true problem and overall harm being done falls on us and not the media. We can blame money for the reason our healthcare system is so messed up. Why we are given drug after drug to try and solve all kinds of things, which leads to more deaths a year then Meth, Crack and Heroine combined. Why our politician’s care more about what large corporations think then what we think. But in the end, all of these problems begin and end with us.
ROBERT M. HUTCHINS:
“The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.”
This is either our country or theirs. If it’s ours, then you and I are the only ones to blame for the state of things. Corruption from money and power are nothing more then after effects of our indifference.

That's why media balance is so important and we need to be on the media's case for constantly dropping the ball.

TrueBlueAmerican · 04-04-2008, 11:54 AM

The problem with the media is that its the media.

babylonDon · 04-04-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollerball

Used to be free. Used to be respectful. Used to have integrity!

Can you imagine the likes of Rush Limbaugh or any of the other two dozen hateful loudmouths on the air today getting any kind of job in media 30 years ago?

I think I found where it started. Once again we have Ronald Reagan to thank.

Unless I'm mistaken, Ronnie boy also passed some laws easing restrictions on media ownership. It was under his stewardship that these mediums became corporate entities in their own right.

Which to me is the absolute core of the issue. Giant corporations and objective truth are not compatible.

julia · 04-04-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by babylonDon

Unless I'm mistaken, Ronnie boy also passed some laws easing restrictions on media ownership. It was under his stewardship that these mediums became corporate entities in their own right.

Which to me is the absolute core of the issue. Giant corporations and objective truth are not compatible.

Agreed, I think it was the Fairness doctorine that was dropped. So things on television did not have to be factual anymore.

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