BillCosby

TIMING IS EVERYTHING WOMEN SAY!!!!!!!........

Hillary Clinton has issued a stark warning to Iran, as Democrats in Pennsylvania vote to choose between her and Barack Obama to run for president.

She said the US would attack, and could "obliterate" Iran, if it launched a nuclear strike on Israel.

Mrs Clinton has been playing up foreign affairs and leadership as she tries to make up ground in the Democratic race.

She leads polls in Pennsylvania, the largest remaining state, but analysts say her hopes depend on a big victory.

A Zogby survey released on Tuesday showed Mrs Clinton leading Mr Obama by 10%, while an InsiderAdvantage poll had her 7% ahead.


I'm not interested in sabre-rattling
Barack Obama

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Wagnerian drama

Polling stations opened at 0700 (1100 GMT), with results expected soon after they close at 2000 (2400 GMT).

As the candidates appeared on the US talk show circuit on Tuesday morning, a row erupted when Mrs Clinton was asked how she would respond if Iran launched a nuclear attack on Israel.

She replied that: "If I'm the president, we will attack Iran... we would be able to totally obliterate them.

"That's a terrible thing to say, but those people who run Iran need to understand that, because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic," she told TV channel ABC.


DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES
Barack Obama:
Pledged delegates: 1,415
Super-delegates: 233
Total: 1,648
Hillary Clinton:
Pledged delegates: 1,251
Super-delegates: 258
Total: 1,509
Source: AP estimates on 22 April

Q&A: US election delegates
Pennsylvania voters' views

In response, Mr Obama said: "Using words like 'obliterate' - it doesn't actually produce good results, and so I'm not interested in sabre-rattling."

He said only that Iran should know he would respond "forcefully" to an attack on any US ally.

The US fears Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and could use them against Israel. Iran insists its nuclear programme is solely for power generation.

Mrs Clinton's tough talking over Iran is part of her strategy, to emphasise her foreign policy experience as she fights for every last vote available in Pennsylvania, says the BBC's Jack Izzard.

Last big state

With four million registered Democrats, and 158 pledged delegates to the Democratic Party's nominating convention in August, Pennsylvania is the last of the big states to hold a primary.


Philadelphia residents discuss the Democratic presidential hopefuls

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Although Mrs Clinton is behind in the delegate count and in the total votes cast, she has won most of the big state contests.

And the white working class voters who have formed the backbone of her support so far are a significant constituency in the state.

With the delegates split in proportion with the vote, neither candidate is expected to win sufficient pledged delegates to seal the nomination in the remaining primaries, and the two are courting 800 or so unelected "super-delegates".

Pennsylvania provides a key test for Mrs Clinton's argument - which she hopes will sway the super-delegates - that only she will be able to secure wins in critical large states come November's presidential election.

The BBC's North America editor, Justin Webb, says the state's voters have the power to keep Mrs Clinton's White House dream alive by giving her a substantial victory, to do it further damage by delivering a close result, or to destroy it by handing a win to Mr Obama.

Hillary Clinton's latest campaign advert

On TV on Tuesday, Mrs Clinton predicted victory but insisted that the margin did not matter. Instead, she said, if Mr Obama failed to win it would call into question "his ability to win the big states".

Mr Obama conceded that his rival "has to be heavily favoured to win" in Pennsylvania, but dismissed the big-state argument, saying there was "no chance" of the Democrats losing New York or California in the presidential election, no matter who the candidate was.

'Politics of fear'

Even before the subject of Iran arose, foreign affairs loomed large in the final hours of campaigning, with the Obama camp accusing Mrs Clinton of trading in the "politics of fear".

Her final campaign advert featured shots of historic world events such as Pearl Harbour and the fall of the Berlin Wall, with clips of al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden and Hurricane Katrina victims.

The advert concluded with the line: "You need to be ready for anything."

Mrs Clinton's chief strategist Geoff Garin said it was a positive advert.

"It states why Hillary Clinton is the right choice to be president," he said. "We're at a moment where we need a president who's got the strength and knowledge to take on very tough challenges."

But Bill Burton, from Mr Obama's team, said: "We already have a president who plays the politics of fear, and we don't need another."

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Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror

Jonesy

Iran is not going to nuke Israel. Unlike the United States, Iran is a reasonable nation.

BillCosby

Perhaps she was stroking the barrel of her grandfathers gun as she issued her threat......

This is a classic example of just how dangerous it is to elect anyone that needs to prove they are tough.......

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Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror

Jonesy

Bush says we'll kill Iraq, N. Korea and Iran (no real reason given). We kill Iraq, N. Korea develops a nuke, Iran maybe develops a nuke. Is the Iranian development of a nuke-for-safety really a valid pretext for war?

BillCosby

You are mistaken to believe he needs a valid pretext........ He will make something up &/or hopefully find something along the way......

If not he will just change the reasons he went in... No WMD. NO prob we went in there to free them.......

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Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror

Jonesy

Same pretext they used for Iraq. 'Can't allow the smoking gun to come in the form of a mushroom cloud.'

Iran claims they are developing nuclear energy, but we think otherwise. Can't allow the smoking gun to come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

The President who cried wolf?

BillCosby

Certainly was a nice little tit-bit sound bite for the talk shows & media big sheep to repeat loudly & often...........

Scaring ppl works.. Especially when you have the media playing along..... A lack of evidence serves only to enhance rather than detract from drum beats......

"WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR IT'S SELF"............. lol & they don't need anything more than plan O' fear to get what they want done...........

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Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror

Jonesy

If we don't know anything else, we know we're supposed to be surviving. How does killing each other help humans survive?

Jonesy

The President was sitting alone on a tree, eating an apple. He called out to his electors, "An army is coming, we must destroy them before they destroy us.". The electors raised their arms and vanquished the foe.

Later, they learned the President was lying. The army was not a real threat.

The President was sitting alone on the tree, eating an apple. He called out to his electors, "An army is coming, we must destroy them before they destroy us.". The electors raised their arms and vanquished the foe.

Later, they learned the President was lying. The army was not a real threat.

The President was once again on his tree. To warn of a coming army, he called to his electors. They did not raise their defenses, allowing the invading army to slaughter them hopelessly.

Ptech

I just happened to catch the actual video of Hitlery making that comment about the obliteration of Iran, in context.

I was reminded how very much like Bush she is. How totally bought and owned by the MIC.