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Gas prices
While we all complain as they go up, and all the candidates have some ideas, I find this a good area in which to ask what people here expect the government to be able to do about gas prices.
The government, I don't think, can tell the oil companies what to charge for their product, what to pay their execs, or what kind of retirement packages they can give. The government can stop the subsidies, but that will more likely drive prices further up. Just as people complain about the cost of pay per view boxing, yet keep paying to watch, and people complain about the cost of food and drinks at ball games, but keep going and paying, gas prices will go up as long as the people keep paying and driving. From my perspective, our government isn't able to much about gas prices. What ti CAN do is investigate for any illegal practices within the industry, and that may or may not yielf lower prices down the road a while. Past that, I'm not sure we can reasonably expect our government to do much about this.
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Windfall tax??
It seems to me they still have the ability to tax............ Unless that was outlawed along w/ some of our freedumbs....... They lack the will to do anything in both parties..........
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that YOU believe that a free and open and unregulated market is the best economic system? Or do you believe only in socialism in which your government regulates all business? If you prefer the open market system, in which all companies succeed or fail based on supply and demand, then surely you can understand that it makes little sense to charge a windfall profits tax. Oil companies do not have a monopoly--right? You are free to purchase their products at any number of players in that industry. You are equally free to purchase nothing from them--right? You can't have it both ways; an open market which is unregulated and a windfall tax when a company does exceedingly well. And I have asked you and others on this topic in the past; how do you define 'windfall'?? Is this a specific quantity of money--like $10 billion or $10 million or $10 thousand? Is this a specific percentage--like anything over 15% net profit? And surely whatever numbers you select must also apply to all businesses--right? Fundamentally this is about supply and demand and today demand is higher than supply for oil so people are paying a premium. If you don't wish to live in socialism, and if you wish for the oil companies to have lower profits, then reduce your demand of that product that is in limited supply. If enough people agree with your position, then as demand slows the prices will lower. If they continue their demand, full knowing they are already paying a premium, then the prices will continue to rise to whatever level the consumer can accept. Windfall taxes in my opinion would be a form of regulation. The only way I can ever accept this type of tax is in a monopoly situation where the consumer has no choice...
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I am not opposed to regulation.. Unlike you & rockafellA'......... I would imagine the tobacco & alcohol ppl would agree as well....... ![]()
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I started thinking about this and actually...there are lots of things that can be done. How about... Government vehicles: In every situation where an electric vehicle will work as well as a combustion engine vehicle, start using electric vehicles. This includes the USPS. All government vehicles that do not fall into the electric category above, should be sub-compacts, or hybrids, that have a minimum 35mpg rating. If USA manufacturers cannot provide these vehicles, then buy imports. Remove all vehicles from service that are not considered essential. This includes all vehicles which are made available for personal use. All use of government owned and operated aircraft, as well as government employees using commercial airlines, to be reduced to an absolute minimum. Government facilities: My guess is there are tens of thousands of government offices/facilities around the world. Immediately eliminate 25% of these facilities and another 25% over the next ten years. US Military: Immediately eliminate 15% of all military facilities around the world and another 15% over the next ten years. The US military is the single largest consumer of oil products in the USA and the world, consuming approximately 150 million barrels per year, or 6.3 billion gallons per year! No matter the method, reduce this consumption by 15% in the next two years and another 15% in the next five years. Begin removing 10,000 US troops per month from Iraq and immediately suspend all ground and air attacks. Free enterprise encouragement: The US government needs to have a contest like the "X Prize". It will award $1 billion to anyone who designs a passenger car which is equal in specifications to the Toyota Prius but has a maximum retail price of $15,000. A second X-prize of another $1 billion will go to any person or business who can design a USA manufacturing facility which will guarantee the manufacture of this $15,000 car. A third X-prize of another $1 billion will be awarded to create higher-efficiency electric car batteries that can be warranted for ten years and cost no more than $1000 per vehicle. A fourth X-prize of $100 million 'each' will be awarded to all incorporated cities in the USA, with a minimum population of 300,000, who can document, design and implement a 25% reduction in passenger car traffic within a two year period. Summary: All of these ideas and in not a single one do I need to regulate an industry, charge windfall profits, or ask people to sacrifice or invest. In fact, once the reductions are made in the government and military, personal taxes can be reduced. Regarding the government and the military ideas, this is common sense and nothing more than house-cleaning and increasing efficiencies. This is about 20 years past due! Regarding the X-Prizes...we can have a $15,000 car, USA manufacturing plants, affordable electric cars, and remove 25% of all passenger car traffic from the nations 50 most populated cities, in a competitive spirit, for the measly sum of $8 billion...or about the cost of the US being in Iraq for a single month. If these items can be achieved, at least in the USA, demand will be less than the supply of oil, and gasoline prices will fall like Paris Hilton's panties after one shot of tequila...
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Could it be that fuels (fossil and alternative) have now become such an integral part of our lives that they've moved from free-market into a social need and thus should be either regulated or literally controlled by the government?
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FINANCE - Exxon Mobil 1Q profit up 17 pct, Wall Street expected more - Top News - Comcast.net
Oil companies post record profits.......AGAIN. 10.9 BILLION dollars in profit, in 1 quarter. Exxon just LOVES the war on terra. ![]()
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$93 Average price of a barrel of oil sold by Exxon in the first quarter. $55 Average price this time last year.
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OilCompanies.net - News and Articles "Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States." –Dick Cheney, October 1986. ... REPUBLICAN PARTY: Oil and Gas Industry Contributed Nearly $67 Million to Republicans Since 2000. The oil and gas industry has contributed over $66.7 million to the RNC, NRCC, NRSC, and Republican candidates since the 2000 election cycle. The oil and gas industry contributed more than $20 million to Republicans in the 2004 cycle alone-four times more than oil money donated to Democrats. In 2004, Exxon alone gave 831,941 to Republicans. [Center for Responsive Politics] ... seems to have been a pretty good investment for them.
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