"Main Core": Are you on Chertoff's "Round up" list? - Page 2

eagleclaw · 06-30-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ibex

That's true, but the technology which was once the exclusive domain of credit card companies, telemarketers and corporations is now in the hands of the NSA and other organizations who think the 4th amendment is a fucking joke. There already have been substantiated reports that certain anti war groups and Islamic religious organizations have been targeted by the Feds. As you say, this is nothing new, but the technical capabilities allow the government access to private information with the greatest amount of ease in our history.

Wow, thanks for the heads up, Captain Obvious!

eagleclaw · 06-30-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueBlueAmerican

But our government told us on tv that they are just for illegal immigrants. Certainly you are not implying that they would lie to us?

They will and would:

Government Strike Teams Invade Homes

brian_wilbanks · 06-30-2008, 08:00 PM

TrueBlueAmerican · 06-30-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

and how is it that you know that it's a concentration camp?

Doesnt exactly look like a high security area to me. it has one 8 foot fence surrounding it.....yeah, it has barbed wire around the top....but what place doesnt nowadays? The place is full of stuff that could be stolen.....

Also, the construction of the fencing is a dead giveaway.....notice how the barbed wire railing angles OUTWARD.......That's because it's there to keep people OUT. If it were a place to keep people contained...there would be many many layers of RAZOR wire anngled INWARD. And probably some electric fencing as well. What is shown in the movie is the same sort of fencing you would see around any maintenace yard...... 8 foot high chain link

lol who do you think the average American citizen is?, Jason Bourne?

What I saw in the video was more than enough to contain the average American on the location. And besides, when the facility is to be used it can be easily modified to meet new demands. Dont forget that the facility would theoretically be guarded by people with big guns.

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Also, if this is some super secret concentration camp....how did the makers of this documentary just walk right in? They say in the beginning that it's an Amtrack maintenance yard.....so who told them that it was going to be converted into a concentration camp?

Because its not a 'concentration camp' in the governments eyes. Its a government complex, supposedly used for the war on drugs, but could easily be used for other purposes. When it does become operational that lady and cameraman arent going to be anywhere near it.

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

Also....those are NOT furnaces that the gas lines run to. Those are in fact HVAC units. I know this because I used to work for a company that built similar units. And these look like the competition units. Notice the ductwork that sucks in return air fromt he space....the units are also on stils to allow for FRESH air to be added to the air stream.....that is a common safety requirement for any maintenance shop.

Furnaces? I dont think it weas being implied that the facility was going to become a death camp like Auschwitz. The implication was that people would be housed there for a period of time. HVAC units huh?

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

I gotta call bullshit on this one. COMPLETE bullshit.

Do what you gotta do.

brian_wilbanks · 07-01-2008, 05:08 AM

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Because its not a 'concentration camp' in the governments eyes. Its a government complex, supposedly used for the war on drugs, but could easily be used for other purposes. When it does become operational that lady and cameraman arent going to be anywhere near it.

Once again....how is it that you know this? So the govt is just letting them in because the place is still under construction???

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Furnaces? I dont think it weas being implied that the facility was going to become a death camp like Auschwitz. The implication was that people would be housed there for a period of time. HVAC units huh?

Well Of course that's what they were implying Jesus H Christ..."gas pipes running down the length of the building terminating into several large furnaces" .....then the part about the red zone where they will be loading people onto the trains...yes...they are trying to say this is Indianna Aushwitz. They are indeed HVAC units.

or I could be wrong and they're actually Soylent Green cooking machines...I mean what elese COULD they be right?

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Do what you gotta do.

The video is complete horseshit........the place is NOT a prison....it's an abandoned maintenance yard.... There are plenty of REAL prisons all over America where they are locking up WOD inmates......You ever hear of CCA ? Well your tax dollars are already at work running those places....and you're focusing on some abandoned Amtrack maintenance yard. good grief.

Duvidoo · 07-01-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

and how is it that you know that it's a concentration camp?

Maybe it's the lookout towers with the searchlights?
Hitler's brand had a fair range of variety ... when they
started up they were mainly for political prisoners.
It wasn't until 1942 that some were refined into death
camps ... in other words not all concentration camps
had ovens, gas chambers and mass graves.

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From Wikipedia:
The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as: a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902; one for the internment of political prisoners, foreign nationals, etc., esp. as organized by the Nazi regime in Germany before and during the war of 1939-45.

Although similar camps existed earlier (such as the US Concentration Camps forced on Cherokee and other Native Americans in the 1830s, Cuba (1868–78), the Philippines (1898–1901) by the Spanish and Americans respectively[5]), the English term "concentration camp" was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during the 1899-1902 Second Boer War[6]. Purportedly conceived as a form of humanitarian aid to the families whose farms had been destroyed in the fighting, the camps were used to confine and control large numbers of civilians as part of a scorched earth tactic.

At the time that Kitchener started the concentration camps in South Africa the war had entered the guerilla phase and set battles during which farms could be destroyed no longer happened. By destroying crops, livestock and farmsteads under the 'Scorched Earth' policy the Boer fighters were deprived of supplies and shelter.It also left the women and children on such farms destitute and they were forcibly removed, against their will, to the camps where thousands died of disease and starvation.

Use of the word concentration comes from the idea of concentrating a group of people who are in some way undesirable in one place, where they can be watched by those who incarcerated them. For example, in a time of insurgency, potential supporters of the insurgents are placed where they cannot provide them with supplies or information, a modern example of which is the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.

brian_wilbanks · 07-01-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvidoo

Maybe it's the lookout towers with the searchlights?
Hitler's brand had a fair range of variety ... when they
started up they were mainly for political prisoners.
It wasn't until 1942 that some were refined into death
camps ..

This isn't the 1930's.....REAL prisons are built everyday in this country. And this is not one of them....it's a fucking railroad maintenace yard

The point is....if this thing was actually a concentration camp in the making....the camera crew would have not been allowed anywhere near it.

Once again, critical thinking is out the window.

"Oh shit...there's a fence...there's a gas line....must be a concentration camp!!!!"

Duvidoo · 07-01-2008, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

This isn't the 1930's.....REAL prisons are built everyday in this country. And this is not one of them....it's a fucking railroad maintenace yard

The point is....if this thing was actually a concentration camp in the making....the camera crew would have not been allowed anywhere near it.

Once again, critical thinking is out the window.

"Oh shit...there's a fence...there's a gas line....must be a concentration camp!!!!"

Guards in towers with searchlights at a RR maintenance yard? I have an 8x10 photograph of my grandfather (along with 42 other unfortunate souls) taken at the Terezin concentration camp in 1941. I have no idea how my mother ever managed to get hold of this ... but it's evidence that where there's a will and a way someone just may snap something that nobody is supposed to see.

PS I doubt anyone is so foolish in 2008 as to start gassing members of their populace ... the sheep might not be so easily led to the slaughter knowing what they know about having a shower so you can be cleaned up for posting to a work camp.....

brian_wilbanks · 07-01-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvidoo

Guards in towers with searchlights at a RR maintenance yard? I have an 8x10 photograph of my grandfather (along with 42 other unfortunate souls) taken at the Terezin concentration camp in 1941. I have no idea how my mother ever managed to get hold of this ... but it's evidence that where there's a will and a way someone just may snap something that nobody is supposed to see.

Do you have any idea at how much valuable equipment and freight comes through there? Those places also operate 24/7 so they have search lights.....whoooooo

are you sure those are spotlights and not death rays? Maybe they line people up in the red zone and kill them with the death ray, then haul them off to the ovens to be converted into Soylent Green.

There is a railyard in Memphis that also has a guardshack tower with lights. I also drove past a Toyota plant in Jackson Mississippi that also has one...but I cant say for sure that they really make Toyotas there....maybe it's a death camp.

Duvidoo · 07-01-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

are you sure those are spotlights and not death rays? Maybe they line people up in the red zone and kill them with the death ray, then haul them off to the ovens to be converted into Soylent Green.

There you go again. Time to bring out the Alex, Steven and Judy Show. The kiddies will be pleased.

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