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Old 07-01-2008, 08:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Because people would be living there for a period of time. People need to be warm in the cold and cool in the heat.
That's the only reason they would need furnaces? Because people would be living there for long periods......
that's the only reason they put heating units into buildings huh?

Not maybe to keep people warm who might be working on railway equipment for 8 hour shifts? No way that could be the reason Gotta be a prison camp if there is a heater installed.

I'm sorry, still not buying your story.I think you're just trying to squirm your way out of something that you know deep in your heart is BS but can't bring yourself to admit it.



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Why would they talk about loading people on a train to send them somewhere else when the so called death furnaces are at that very location? They were thus not implying death camp by cremation.
Oh I see.......

man, you're doing some damage control on this one.

Why can't you just admit that the video is possibly nothing more than an old maintenance yard?

The funny thing about that video is that there is no sound from the initial shooting. Only the narration. Which makes me question the reason the video was shot in the first place.

I myself think that maybe the video might have been shot by some sort of contractor or person interested in buying the facility and some truther got ahold of it and turned it into the Indiana Dachau.



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I know our government is evil, but I also know that its not that evil.. Maybe watch fewer Holocaust documentaries?
Oh...but blowing up the twin towers.....they could do that...but death camps....that's over the line.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
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That's the only reason they would need furnaces? Because people would be living there for long periods......
that's the only reason they put heating units into buildings huh?
Noone including myself said that. That was my suggestion for what the furnaces would be used for rather than your suggestion that it was being implied that they would be used for cremation. I stated myself that furnaces have multiple applications.


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Not maybe to keep people warm who might be working on railway equipment for 8 hour shifts?
Neither of us know whether they were installed a long time ago or recently. If they were installed a long time ago, your theory may hold water here, but my theory would also holds water since they could also be used for other purposes other than providing heat for workers who then leave when the work is done. If they were installed recently,then your theory doesnt hold water since you have repeatedly stated that its just an old maintainance yard.


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Oh I see.......

man, you're doing some damage control on this one.

Why can't you just admit that the video is possibly nothing more than an old maintenance yard?
Theres that qualifier 'possibly'. Is it possible that it is just an old maintanance yard? Sure it is. Is it likely given what we have seen? No.
Again, we both saw the same video and drew different conclusions. A difference of opinion.



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The funny thing about that video is that there is no sound from the initial shooting. Only the narration. Which makes me question the reason the video was shot in the first place.

I myself think that maybe the video might have been shot by some sort of contractor or person interested in buying the facility and some truther got ahold of it and turned it into the Indiana Dachau.
Another conspiracy theory.


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Oh...but blowing up the twin towers.....they could do that...but death camps....that's over the line.
I dont believe the 9/11 conspiracy theory.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:49 AM   #43 (permalink)
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A little-known $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build detention facilities for "an emergency influx of immigrants" is another step down the Bush administration's road toward martial law.

A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."

The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

To date, some newspapers have worried that open-ended provisions in the contract could lead to cost overruns, such as have occurred with KBR in Iraq. A Homeland Security spokesperson has responded that this is a "contingency contract" and that conceivably no centers might be built. But almost no paper so far has discussed the possibility that detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law.

Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:52 AM   #44 (permalink)
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From the horses mouth:

Strengthening the nation’s capacity to detain and remove criminal and other deportable aliens is a key component of the comprehensive strategy to deter illegal immigration and protect public safety. Detention and removal of illegal aliens is a priority of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). This commitment has been backed by significant resources devoted to detention and removal efforts.

DRO secures bed space in detention facilities, and monitors these facilities for compliance with national Detention Standards. The standards specify the living conditions appropriate for detainees. These standards have been collated and published in the Detention Operations Manual (Detention Standards). This manual provides uniform policies and procedures concerning the treatment of individuals detained by ICE. Detainees in ICE custody are provided with a National Detainee Handbook, available in English or Spanish. The National Detainee Handbook provides an overview of the general rules, regulations, policies and procedures that all detainees are required to follow while in ICE custody, as well as the programs and services available at all ICE facilities. Each facility also has a site-specific handbook that is a guide to the policies, rules and procedures in effect at that specific location, and addresses day-to-day concerns of ICE detainees.

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Old 07-02-2008, 07:47 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that these are from the one I saw...(I dont think so, ) but here you go. If we want to point a finger at corruption, they actually make it quite easy.


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Old 07-02-2008, 07:52 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I dont believe the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

That's all I needed to hear

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