A Thread To Honor Our Military In Iraq

[babylonDon]

Originally Posted by bornright

I have no idea where Rush comes into the discussion. I have not heard anything from Rush in quite sometime but if he is talking the same points I am, good for him. Do you listen to him often?

Rioting in the streets
4/23 4:04p.m.That's the day and time you started your riot/masturbatory thread.

Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat (Riot Edition):


"4/25/2008
Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat (Riot Edition):
So rotund sex tourist Rush Limbaugh, in his ongoing effort to make the Democratic nomination process as bloody as possible, has stated what one of his goals is for his "Operation Chaos," involving people (the zomboid "Dittoheads" listening to him) registering as Democrats or voting in open primaries in order to sow internecine warfare in the Democratic party. That goal is to so infect the process that there are riots at the Democratic National Convention in Denver. And, no, that's not an exaggeration or taking this fat fuck out of context. Here he is on Wednesday on his show (quoted extensively before it goes up behind his wallet-sucking wall):"


Well that Wednesday just happened to be the very same 4/23/08 YOUR thread was started on.

Great minds I guess.

Because surely, YOU wouldn't lie?

P.S. I don't expect a response to this. I understand.

[JeffinCO]

Originally Posted by babylonDon

Rioting in the streets
4/23 4:04p.m.That's the day and time you started your riot/masturbatory thread.

Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat (Riot Edition):


"4/25/2008
Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat (Riot Edition):
So rotund sex tourist Rush Limbaugh, in his ongoing effort to make the Democratic nomination process as bloody as possible, has stated what one of his goals is for his "Operation Chaos," involving people (the zomboid "Dittoheads" listening to him) registering as Democrats or voting in open primaries in order to sow internecine warfare in the Democratic party. That goal is to so infect the process that there are riots at the Democratic National Convention in Denver. And, no, that's not an exaggeration or taking this fat fuck out of context. Here he is on Wednesday on his show (quoted extensively before it goes up behind his wallet-sucking wall):"


Well that Wednesday just happened to be the very same 4/23/08 YOUR thread was started on.

Great minds I guess.

Because surely, YOU wouldn't lie?

P.S. I don't expect a response to this. I understand.

LMAO!

pwned again. and in your own thread. .....again. (dammit) Too bad shortsighted ignorance doesnt allow for evaluation of self.

All he needs to do is start spewing against the fictional evil liberal scourge....and it's painfully obvious where he gets his thought process from. ...and in this day and age, Is there anything more pathetic than a "dittohead"?

Debating the military in Iraq ...(and how to honor them) with BR is alot like attempting carberator repair with a hammer.

...the hammer doesnt have an opinion about air/ fuel mixture. He just wants to hit the fucking thing.

[babylonDon]

Originally Posted by JeffinCO

LMAO!

pwned again. and in your own thread. .....again. (dammit) Too bad shortsighted ignorance doesnt allow for evaluation of self.

All he needs to do is start spewing against the fictional evil liberal scourge....and it's painfully obvious where he gets his thought process from. ...and in this day and age, Is there anything more pathetic than a "dittohead"?

Debating the military in Iraq ...(and how to honor them) with BR is alot like attempting carberator repair with a hammer.

...the hammer doesnt have an opinion about air/ fuel mixture. He just wants to hit the fucking thing.

He's pwned in every thread, every time. That precious butter-wouldn't-melt-in-his-mouth pretension is all so much bullshit. He's just another half-bright Limbaugh parrot.

He regularly spews against the fictional
'evil liberal scourge', and what he thinks sets him apart is his condescending Old Glory Holier Than Thou prose style. If you read nearly every one of his posts, there's a sweeping misrepresentation/insult of the left in them.

As long as he continues to attempt to patronize and offend here, I'll continue to rub his nose in his ineptitude in doing so.

It's how we trained our dog to stop peeing in the house

When do you suppose he'll get around to giving us an example of 'pro-alqaeda' posts here?

[JeffinCO]

Here are some GREAT EXAMPLES of supporting the troops in Iraq, provided by the genius who lied to us in order to put them there.

Hey BR - Obviously the guys you carry water for know how to "honor" the troops.

Between tax cuts for the rich, war profits for Halliburton, or support for our troops - which does the Bush Administration choose, time and time again?

- Bush Administration cuts $1.5 billion from military family housing. The Bush Administration cut $1.5 billion for military family housing, despite Department of Defense statistics showing that in 83,000 barracks and 128,860 family housing units across the country are below standard. ("Nothing But Lip Service," Army Times, June 30, 2003; "House Appropriations Committee Approves $59.2 Million for Ft. Hood," U.S. Rep. Chet Edwards Press Release, June 17, 2003)

- Bush Republicans support millionaires instead of military veterans. Bush allies in Congress stopped efforts to scale back the tax cut for the nation's millionaires by just five percent - a loss of just $4,780 for the year - in order to restore this funding for military family housing. ("The Tax Debate Nobody Hears About," Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

- Bush Administration underfunded veterans' health care by $2 billion. The Bush Administration's 2004 budget underfunded veterans' health care by nearly $2 billion. ("Vets Health Low on Bush's Priority List," The Hill, September 17, 2003; "Support for Troops Questioned," Washington Post, June 17, 2003; U.S. Department of Veterans' Affairs, September 2002)

- Bush Administration proposal would end health care benefits for 173,000 veterans. More than 173,000 veterans across the country would be cut off from health care because of Bush Administration proposed budget cuts and its plan requiring enrollment fees and higher out-of-pocket costs. ("Support for Troops Questioned," Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

- Bush Administration budget cuts force more than 200,000 veterans to wait for health care. Over 200,000 United States veterans have to wait more than six months for a medical visit because of health care shortages. ("VA Health Care Funding Alert," Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States Press Release, January 31, 2003)

- Bush Administration opposed plan to give National Guard and Reserve Members access to health insurance. Despite the war efforts of America's National Guard and Reserve Members, the Bush Administration announced in October 2003 its formal opposition to give the 1.2 million Guard and Reserve members the right to buy health care coverage through the Pentagon's health plan. One out of every five Guard members lacks health insurance. ("Bush Opposes Health Plan for National Guard," Gannett News Service, October 23, 2003)

- Bush Administration cuts $172 million allotted for educating the children of military personnel. The Bush Administration's 2004 budget cut $172 million of impact aid funding. Impact aid funding assists school districts by making up for lost local tax revenue from tax-exempt property, such as military bases. These education cuts will especially affect school-age children of troops serving in Iraq who reside on military bases. ("Support for Troops Questioned," Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

- Bush Administration tax cut denies military families increase in child tax credit. The families of 262,000 children of military personnel do not receive the child tax credit increase because the plan fails to cover taxpaying families with incomes between $10,500 and $26,625. According to The Washington Post, the House version of the Bush Administration plan "wouldn't help many of those serving in Iraq." One solider who will not benefit is Army Specialist Shoshana Johnson, the soldier and single mother who was wounded twice in the same convoy as Jessica Lynch. ("Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army of Double Standard on Benefit," Washington Post, October 24, 2003; "The New Senate Child Credit Legislation - What It Does and Does Not Do," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, June 25, 2003; "Whose Child Is Left Behind," Children's Defense Fund, July 23, 2003)
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And ...just FYI.
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2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

[JeffinCO]

OK BR.

I'll provide you with a story of heroism since you cant seem to provide any....
Iraqi War Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Sergeant First Class Paul Ray Smith, US Army

........
Lt. Col. Smith commanded the 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division, during the American attack on Iraq, which began March 20, 2003. On the morning of April 4, the engineers found themselves manning a roadblock not far from Baghdad International Airport.

A call went out for a place to put some Iraqi prisoners.

Sgt. Smith volunteered to create a holding pen inside a walled courtyard. Soon, Iraqi soldiers, numbering perhaps 100, opened fire on Smith's position. Smith was accompanied by 16 men.

Smith called for a Bradley, a tank-like vehicle with a rapid fire cannon. It arrived and opened up on the Iraqis. The enemy could not advance so long as the Bradley was in position. But then, in a move that baffled and angered Smith's men, the Bradley left.

Smith's men, some of whom were wounded, were suddenly vulnerable.

Smith could have justifiably ordered his men to withdraw. Lt. Col. Smith believes Sgt. Smith rejected that option, thinking that abandoning the courtyard would jeopardize about 100 GIs outside - including medics at an aid station.

Sgt. Smith manned a 50-caliber machine gun atop an abandoned armored personnel carrier and fought off the Iraqis, going through several boxes of ammunition fed to him by 21-year-old Pvt. Michael Seaman. As the battle wound down, Smith was hit in the head. He died before he could be evacuated from the scene. He was 33.
.....

Amazing bravery in the heat of battle, despite obvious miscommunication and lack of proper eqiupment.

But I will do what you, BR, are obviously are incapable of.....look deeper into REASON.

SO.... did he do what he did because he believed Saddam was a bad guy? NO.

...Did he do what he did because he wanted the good people of Iraq to live in a free society?
(That would be pretty ironic, huh, .... being that he was shot by an Iraqi ....while tring to build a holding pen for Iraqis).

They fight for each other. Theirs is not to wonder why. They follow orders.

..they depend on you and me to wonder why.

....Could you look Paul in the eye and tell him "This is why you died today."
???

I fucking doubt it. Better to type out some sterile "I appreciate your sacrifice" ignorance and get back to your burrito and tv show.

[Kanadesaga]

Originally Posted by bornright

Yes all those National Guardsmen did volunteer for military service at a time this country is at war. Should we not be proud of them and their decision?

and once again you show yourself to be the high school kid you truly are. At the very least you show yuourself to never having served this nation in the military. "all" You said "all those National Guardsmen did volunteer for military service at a time of war". Are you implying that there were no National Guardsmen before 2001? Because if I'm not mistaken National Guard units have existed for quite some time. and many people I know that joined the National Guard joined during a time of peace. Some were ex-military, extending a monetary contract. Others joined to serve their state and still have a life outside of the military. But to say that ALL joined in wartime is pretty naive, it's pretty uninformed, it's pretty high school.

You ask me to tell you what is "liberal information". Very simply it is everything you have spoke of except for the death toll.

If there were a soldier that told you that he believed in the US mission in Iraq and that he disagreed with your propaganda that you spit out against this government. This soldier goes to Iraq and serves his country in an honorable way using his courage and skills to kill as many terrorists and enemies to the US and Iraqi people as he possible can. Do you feel this soldier is a hero?

If he performed honorablly and not cravenly, yes. Are those marines in Haditha heroes?

[JeffinCO]

Notice that when Bush says "Fuck off." to the troops, it's often in the form of denying them funding for health benefits for the returning soldiers and their family.

...Hey BR......get your rebate check yet?

People won't give a shit about our kids in Iraq when they can go git A BRANE NEW PEE_ESS_THREEE!!! and a case of beer.

moooo.

[bornright]

Originally Posted by Kanadesaga

and once again you show yourself to be the high school kid you truly are. At the very least you show yuourself to never having served this nation in the military. "all" You said "all those National Guardsmen did volunteer for military service at a time of war". Are you implying that there were no National Guardsmen before 2001? Because if I'm not mistaken National Guard units have existed for quite some time. and many people I know that joined the National Guard joined during a time of peace. Some were ex-military, extending a monetary contract. Others joined to serve their state and still have a life outside of the military. But to say that ALL joined in wartime is pretty naive, it's pretty uninformed, it's pretty high school.

I did not serve in the National Guard but unless things have changed you do not re-enlist except for 6 years at a time. Feel free to check me on that as it may be incorrect today. I again say that everyone in Iraq has joined since this country has been at war.

Originally Posted by Kanadesaga

Are those marines in Haditha heroes?

YES

[Kanadesaga]

Originally Posted by bornright

I did not serve in the National Guard but unless things have changed you do not re-enlist except for 6 years at a time. Feel free to check me on that as it may be incorrect today. I again say that everyone in Iraq has joined since this country has been at war.



YES

Since we weren't at war 6 years ago with Iraq I would say again you are full of shit!

[bornright]

Originally Posted by JeffinCO

OK BR.

I'll provide you with a story of heroism since you cant seem to provide any....
Iraqi War Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Sergeant First Class Paul Ray Smith, US Army

........
Lt. Col. Smith commanded the 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division, during the American attack on Iraq, which began March 20, 2003. On the morning of April 4, the engineers found themselves manning a roadblock not far from Baghdad International Airport.

A call went out for a place to put some Iraqi prisoners.

Sgt. Smith volunteered to create a holding pen inside a walled courtyard. Soon, Iraqi soldiers, numbering perhaps 100, opened fire on Smith's position. Smith was accompanied by 16 men.

Smith called for a Bradley, a tank-like vehicle with a rapid fire cannon. It arrived and opened up on the Iraqis. The enemy could not advance so long as the Bradley was in position. But then, in a move that baffled and angered Smith's men, the Bradley left.

Smith's men, some of whom were wounded, were suddenly vulnerable.

Smith could have justifiably ordered his men to withdraw. Lt. Col. Smith believes Sgt. Smith rejected that option, thinking that abandoning the courtyard would jeopardize about 100 GIs outside - including medics at an aid station.

Sgt. Smith manned a 50-caliber machine gun atop an abandoned armored personnel carrier and fought off the Iraqis, going through several boxes of ammunition fed to him by 21-year-old Pvt. Michael Seaman. As the battle wound down, Smith was hit in the head. He died before he could be evacuated from the scene. He was 33.
.....

Amazing bravery in the heat of battle, despite obvious miscommunication and lack of proper eqiupment.

But I will do what you, BR, are obviously are incapable of.....look deeper into REASON.

SO.... did he do what he did because he believed Saddam was a bad guy? NO.

...Did he do what he did because he wanted the good people of Iraq to live in a free society?
(That would be pretty ironic, huh, .... being that he was shot by an Iraqi ....while tring to build a holding pen for Iraqis).

They fight for each other. Theirs is not to wonder why. They follow orders.

..they depend on you and me to wonder why.

....Could you look Paul in the eye and tell him "This is why you died today."
???

I fucking doubt it. Better to type out some sterile "I appreciate your sacrifice" ignorance and get back to your burrito and tv show.

Actually I did post on Sgt Smith on an earlier post. He showed great courage. Using his courage and his death to attempt to prove one of your liberal political views is very weak. Accept the man for his courage and let that be that. You have no idea what he was fighting for just as you have no idea to the mental reasoning behind congress and the president sending troops into Iraq. Sgt Smith was a brave and honorable man.