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Old 03-31-2008, 01:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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the last 8 years were better financially than the previous 8 and we haven't been taxed to death where we could explore other outside incomes thus having multiple sources ofr revenue. Put BO in office and half the poplulation get a license to sit on their ass and draw free money
Ok, don't know what kind of news sources there are in TN but the country is in massive debt from the war and there is a heck of a lot more corporate welfare in this country than for individuals.
Lately, it's Bear Stearns execs and shareholders who are getting free money/tax payers money.
It's also been oil companies and this list goes on and on and on...
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I know you're serious.......but, really what good has he done? You have stated why you are proud, why you appreciate and even why you respect G.W.. You still haven't stated what good he has done.....for THIS country.....not Saudi Arabia.

I think I stated cutting taxes.
He did a tremendous job after 9-11.
He makes decisions for what he feels is best for the country and not led by the media and polls.
He has allowed our military to fight this countries enemy and has seemed to really try to keep politics out of military actions. (very difficult job).

Again I do realize all the good that he has done would not be possible without the support of congress.
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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No President can do good or bad without the help of Congress. I personally appreciate the lowering of taxes when he first came to office.

I appreciate the way he led our nation after 9-11 in keeping our spirits up. If we think back to that time all other politicians, even the democrats, thought he was doing a great job.

I respect President Bush for doing what he thinks is the right thing to do in Afganistan and Iraq. I am sure that he and Congress have so much more information than we have in regard to either war. He obviously has a tremendous amount of patience.

I am proud of President Bush for not allowing the media and polls that are affected by the media to run the country. It would be much easier on him to follow the polls and call the NY Times before any major decisions to get their ok first.

I appreciate you starting this thread as I do respect him and feel he has done well on many things. I do not agree with some of his decisions but I feel he has my country's interest at heart. It is hard to dislike him for that.
As usual, cowpoke, you completely miss the boat.

The best thing Bush has done, after providing material for comedians, is aid to Africa.
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
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the last 8 years were better financially than the previous 8 and we haven't been taxed to death where we could explore other outside incomes thus having multiple sources ofr revenue. Put BO in office and half the poplulation get a license to sit on their ass and draw free money
Jezus Kryste! Read a book or something, why don't you...
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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No President can do good or bad without the help of Congress. I personally appreciate the lowering of taxes when he first came to office.

I appreciate the way he led our nation after 9-11 in keeping our spirits up. If we think back to that time all other politicians, even the democrats, thought he was doing a great job.

I respect President Bush for doing what he thinks is the right thing to do in Afganistan and Iraq. I am sure that he and Congress have so much more information than we have in regard to either war. He obviously has a tremendous amount of patience.

I am proud of President Bush for not allowing the media and polls that are affected by the media to run the country
. It would be much easier on him to follow the polls and call the NY Times before any major decisions to get their ok first.

I appreciate you starting this thread as I do respect him and feel he has done well on many things. I do not agree with some of his decisions but I feel he has my country's interest at heart. It is hard to dislike him for that.


I think I stated cutting taxes.
He did a tremendous job after 9-11.
He makes decisions for what he feels is best for the country and not led by the media and polls.
He has allowed our military to fight this countries enemy and has seemed to really try to keep politics out of military actions. (very difficult job).

Again I do realize all the good that he has done would not be possible without the support of congress.
Well I remember @ the time we thought that..... But we didn't know that....... & Now that we know what went down for a fact it is shocking just how poorly this "war" has been managed..... From letting binladen get away to turning the country's focus from binladen & terrorism to getting saddam..........

I can partially understand your lower taxes point as admittedly I benefited from them but lots of others did not...... In fact lowering taxes & beating the drum while simultaneously beating the drums of war is just plain dumb & a lesson that should have been learned via LBJ...........

I recall a thread back @ BM challenging us to come up w/ "good things" that bush had done.......... I honestly tried to come up w/ something, figuring the idea absurd that he could have done absolutely nothing but it was then that I realized that even some of the things he did I thought/assumed were good or benefiting the country was all in my mind...........

Did you watch front line-bushs war??? Most of my fears & anger of how & why events went as they did were proven & or revealed...........
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I made more than enough now, it's a non issue. The Clinton years were rough, almost didn't survive. Actually, Clinton was the idiot, taxed the hell out of us, that is where surpluses come from. I had rather be taxed for wars as to be taxed for subsides, committees, welfare, and finally universal health care .
You would rather be taxed to kill ppl like one million IraQi civilians then see a dime of the money go to help someone down the street from you or their kids???
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You would rather be taxed to kill ppl like one million IraQi civilians then see a dime of the money go to help someone down the street from you or their kids???
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I made more than enough now, it's a non issue. The Clinton years were rough, almost didn't survive. Actually, Clinton was the idiot, taxed the hell out of us, that is where surpluses come from.
If the government never has a general budget surplus, how does it pay back its debt?

The general budget surpluses at the end of the Clinton presidency didn't even cover the accumulating interest on the trust funds that the federal government "borrows" money from to offset it's current spending. Overall Clinton still added 1.55 trillion dollars to the national debt. Of course he got handed a large deficit from the Bush I administration and reduced it ever year which was a significant feat.

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I had rather be taxed for wars as to be taxed for subsides, committees, welfare, and finally universal health care .
How are you being taxed for wars? Bush is running deficits that far exceed the cost of the wars. Rather than taxing you for it Bush is taxing the next generations for it. Somebody will have to pay for it and with interest of course. Not so good for them.
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Down the street NO, as I know all my neighbors, to illegals or druggies, homeless, well then YES. BTW, you are reaching with the one million more like 300,000. Don't bother with the link as it is a liberal link to begin with.
It is prob over one million.... Regardless lib or conserv.......


If it was 300,000 would it then be ok??? Not by me....

Aprox 23-25 % of those homeless are vets............

Just so we don't waste time here let me tell you straight up. I am not a lib............

Ppl in backwards countries like Canada & France can somehow take much better care of their ppl then the "richest nation on earth".......

IMO it is a sad day when ppl would rather spend a million on killing then helping their own.........
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