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Old 06-25-2008, 12:43 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I do not think you are typical of your generation Do YOU think you are typical of your generation?
I think that some have taken different paths than myself to get where they are....so in that aspect I think we a different. But I don't think that they are any better than myself or vise versa.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thinly veiled sarcasm doesn't become you, separately from being a Moderator. As a Moderator, understand this is personal opinion and requires no response, I should think you would particularly aspire to a communication style and content that speaks to wisdom and leadership.
I didn't think it was thinly veiled. I thought it was pretty blantant and added the emoticon for emphasis even. We're all sarcastic here, including you....and my standing as a mod here doesn't change how I behave. I am not payed for my services here and only participate for my own pure pleasure. IF it was a payed position I would consider being more professional....



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My experience says that each generation thinks it is superior to the generation that preceded it.
Strange that you seldom hear the younger generations crying about how terrible the preceding ones were.

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With how many generations are you acquainted? Three, or four?
Up until very recently 5

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The Baby Boom generation...that'd be roughly your parents' generation, I'm guessing...was raised being told and believing that we were meant to be better-read-that-better-off than our parents' generation, the Depression People. And we were.
Which kind of answers your question below

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Things were so good, in fact, we were so busy having such a good time and buying such neat-o stuff, that we didn't think to pay any attention to whether our government was robbing us blind and whether criminals were transacting business willy nilly.
That is a problem that will always plague us and most likely no matter what can only be strived for but never fully achieved.

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Plus, because MY people's Depression-era parents were so, well, depressing, we swung way the other way, turning our children...YOUR people...into pampered, protected, orchestrated Trophy Kids who can't think for themselves. Unless we abandoned them completely...just left a huge sector of a whole generation of whipper snappers to fend for themselves, we did...without nutrition, education, healthcare, prospects or encouragement.

There is no doubt about it, the Baby Boom generation dropped the ball.
I pick on the baby boomers alot...mostly out of jest, and partly because they're the ones whining about my generation. In some aspects was the ball dropped? Yes of course....but the idea that my generation can't think for itself it GREATLY overexaggerated and I've read many pieces on it indicating that the idea is just more of what bornright was saying...that the younger generations are not as good as the previous...albiet in true baby boomer style with a bit of guilt added to the mix

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I have a lotta hope for my Baby Boom generation, that it can be persuaded to knock this political bullshit off, focus on the tasks at hand, roll up their sleeves and get 'er done. I don't have any confidence that your ADD/MTV generation can do it. I do, however, think that we are to blame for your-not-your ineffectuality.

What's hilarious is that if the Baby Boomers should solidify behind McCain, which would cause Obama to lose, we will see the Temper Tantrum of all time.

No worries. We've raised teenagers.
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Define "progress of a species" and define "progress of a country."
Despite all of the bellyaching by every preceding generation....I would rather not live at any time in history rather than the present....that I think speaks vollumes about where we are....And of course there are all kinds of statistics and such that can back it up....



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When you're done raising your daughter, lemme know if your views are the same.
I'm sure many of my views will change...but I'm not the kind of person who likes to disparage an entire group of people on a "feeling"...so really I don't expect to feel that my daughter and her generation are somehow lesser than her mother and I. Every generation will its own hardships to fight through. They just manifest themselves in a different way.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I think that some have taken different paths than myself to get where they are....so in that aspect I think we a different. But I don't think that they are any better than myself or vise versa.
You running for office? 'Cuz you answered like a politician.

Who said anything about better or vice versa?

I said I don't think you are typical-read-that-common-do-not-read-that-low-class-read-that-typical for your generation.

And I asked whether YOU think you are typical for your generation.

You equivocated in Democratic offend-no-one-ese.

I am not the one having trouble understanding that there are different paths for different people.

Let me re-phrase.

I am under the impression that you are resourceful, enterprising, disciplined, productive, decisive and quick-witted. That is not the impression I have about most of your generation.

Am I wrong about you, or wrong about your generation?
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:04 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You running for office? 'Cuz you answered like a politician.

Who said anything about better or vice versa?

I said I don't think you are typical-read-that-common-do-not-read-that-low-class-read-that-typical for your generation.

And I asked whether YOU think you are typical for your generation.

You equivocated in Democratic offend-no-one-ese.

I am not the one having trouble understanding that there are different paths for different people.

Let me re-phrase.

I am under the impression that you are resourceful, enterprising, disciplined, productive, decisive and quick-witted. That is not the impression I have about most of your generation.

Am I wrong about you, or wrong about your generation?

Well thank you for the compliment. But to answer your question...then yes I believe in that aspect that I am representative of my generation. I believe that there are some who spoil the image for the rest...the Paris Hiltons of my generation are not indicitive of the rest of my generation....much like radical Muslims do not accurately reflect all of Islam.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:12 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Well thank you for the compliment.
I call 'em like I see 'em, but you're welcome.


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But to answer your question...then yes I believe in that aspect that I am representative of my generation.
It would almost not be possible to disagree with you more.


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I believe that there are some who spoil the image for the rest...
What image? Describe the image of your generation...unless you're gonna stick with the story that the adjectives I attributed to you are attributable generation-wide. Practical evidence speaks to the contrary, by the by.


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the Paris Hiltons of my generation are not indicitive of the rest of my generation....much like radical Muslims do not accurately reflect all of Islam.
This is another political foil, hauling out Extreme Case examples as though they have any bearing on anything. That is the single biggest problem in American politics...after greed and stupidity...playing to the exception, rather than the rule.
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What image? Describe the image of your generation...unless you're gonna stick with the story that the adjectives I attributed to you attribute generation-wide. Practical evidence speaks to the contrary, by the by.
The image that you describe or allude to in your posts about my generation being incapable, lazy or whatever....that there are a few that create that image



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This is another political foil, hauling out Extreme Case examples as though they have any bearing on anything. That is the single biggest problem in American politics...after greed and stupidity...playing to the exception, rather than the rule.
And that's my point...that people are taking high profile examples of my generation and attributing it to the whole......when that is not the case.
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BTW...if you look up generation Me....you will get baby boomers as the result....my generation is known as generation Y....
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okay read it...there is no substance in the article...just inuendo.....it's crap just like the OP.
He is a respected author, and his points should be well taken. You weren't around for the policies of the 70's, but I was. Gasoline shortages, sky high interest rates and inflation...the misery index was real. I don't want to go back to those times..

My grandparents remembered the 30's, where men with cardboard in their shoes and dressed in rags, would come begging at the back door for food. They lived on a farm, yet endured an entire winter living off of canned green beans and potatoes...food they grew that summer in the garden. Those times weren't for the faint hearted.

My point is, equating some of Mr. Obama's policies with some that failed in the past won't help the country. Period.
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He is a respected author, and his points should be well taken. You weren't around for the policies of the 70's, but I was. Gasoline shortages, sky high interest rates and inflation...the misery index was real. I don't want to go back to those times..

My grandparents remembered the 30's, where men with cardboard in their shoes and dressed in rags, would come begging at the back door for food. They lived on a farm, yet endured an entire winter living off of canned green beans and potatoes...food they grew that summer in the garden. Those times weren't for the faint hearted.

My point is, equating some of Mr. Obama's policies with some that failed in the past won't help the country. Period.

My point is that the author doesn't specify any of Obama's policies or for that matter any of the previous decades. He just alludes to them...he doesn't offer anything to make an honest analysis or compare/contrast....
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Define "progress of a species" and define "progress of a country."

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Despite all of the bellyaching by every preceding generation....I would rather not live at any time in history rather than the present....that I think speaks vollumes about where we are....And of course there are all kinds of statistics and such that can back it up....
You would rather live when you live than at any other time...that defines "progress of a species and a country"? People prefer what they know. Familiarity may breed contempt in some but, in most, it is like salve on a burn. People don't like uncertainty and, the ruckus surrounding Obama notwithstanding, people don't like change.

You define provincialism and myopia, too, you must realize that. Being satisfied with what is speaks to complacency, lack of inquisitiveness, superficiality, tradition, habit, laziness and fear at least as much as it speaks to progress.

Preferring to be who we are, where we are, when we are is kinda key to the pursuit of happiness in a life that promises death. We would be assured of death AND spend a lifetime wishing we lived at a different time of life? How depressed do we wanna get?

You have defined neither your generation, nor progress of the species, nor progress of a country.
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