AlineaHeart

Wouldn't it be a bitch to die and then figure out you have to live another couple of decades in someone else's body? Damn. Wonder if they've asked the hearts if they still want to live or if they feel trapped.

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The_Heretic

Well... two things.

The first is not all cultures assciate the actual heart as the center of the soul. In medieval Japan when a Samurai commits sepiku he stabs into his stomach and then either [this varies] cuts a horrizontal line and then down the lower lip of the cut or cuts into a "+" pattern. This allow the stomach to fall out and, according to the tradition, show the Samurai's purity of their soul.

The second does fall in line with the idea in the video, but probably not quite the way depicted. The other organs in the body do affect hormonal balance and- indirectly, influences the formation changes in the neurology of the brain.

The military has a term "muscle memory" which more accurately means that part of the brain controlling voluntary muscles recalls repetative movement sequencess with greater ease the more often those sequences are carried out.

As for recalling the donor's name, it's possible she actually heard it spoken by hospital staff while unconscious or semi-conscous as well as other details and then- in a moment of crosswiring that also occurs in dreams, incorporated the information into the dream she had later. My zombie dream [posted elsewhere] came after watching Dawn of The Dead [2004 version] a few hours before going to sleep.

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AlineaHeart

Perhaps I should have posted the other three parts first...oops.




What I found really interesting is how the heart was responding before the images were appearing on the screen.

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Now I suppose the question is if only 5 - 10% of heart transplant recipients experience a change, what's going on with the other 90 - 95%? After that, I wonder how many personality changes accurately reflect the donor?

I knew there was a complex nervous system around the heart, but that's because of the complexity of muscle contractions as the surgeon in the video said. It's worth exploring, but I suspect the final answer will be less dramatic or extravigant as we're seeing here.

Myself, I tend to see spiritual elements as existing outside the four dimentional space we're able to measure.

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It's meant to titillate.

Get a few people together who feel this way. A couple of crack pot doctors who might suggest it's possible, roll it all together with a decent script and some post production editing and graphic montages.

I wouldn't doubt the actual amount of people who experience this at its highest level is also the correct percentage of patients who statistically would have the proven and real problem of late in life schizophrenia or some other type of personality defect. In fact even a normal human mind can produce through suggestion, all kinds of bizarre effects. We all have nightmares, like to go to scary movies, and daydream the most fantastic fantasies. A traumatic and very life threatening event like a heart transplant has got to have some effect on some people. It's not as if everyone can walk out of the hospital totally unaffected mentally that someone else's heart is beating inside of them.

What's more likely? That's what I always ask.

That the heart defies everything we know about and produces these types of effects.

Or....

That a small percentage of people actually go a bit nuts, and swear it's the the transplant.

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Well the transplant surgeon did say the repressant drugs do have psychological effects.

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AlineaHeart

I thought the focus was memories? Or is that spiritual to you as well?

RE: the other 90-95% - what if the donors were just so common that any preferences were seamless to the recipient? I believe your question can only be answered after they look more into heart intelligence and it's MO.

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AlineaHeart

Only explains X number of hours (or possibly days) after the operation though.

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Perhaps, if you want to look at the soul/spirit being energy, the transplant patients recieved a little piece of the donor's essence? I'll admit I didn't watch the video yet, but this is the first thing that sprung to mind after reading the responses.

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The_Heretic

To many of the heart recipients it clearly is. To me it's only spiritual in the sense that all things, living and inanimate, are connected regardless [my octopus analogy that roughly parallels the Indra's Net of Gems thing]. However, this interpretation leaves no data trail for science to work with.

Even though donor organs are checked for their compatibility with recipients that's not to say personalities could be, if there were possible and still have effective transplant procedures.

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