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Are U.A.'s accurate 1 14.29%
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Randon Ua's In The Workplace

What is your vote when it cimes to random U.A.'s in the workplace?
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What is your vote when it cimes to random U.A.'s in the workplace?
IMO..it depends on the field. We have random UA's in healthcare..but only if you are suspected of something.
that seems like a fair policy if peoples lives might be at risk.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, it is important, but then look at all the doctors who are dependent on drugs to keep them awake. That's scary too. I put an "n" instead of "M" at the end of Random!!!!
My experience with a UA was when I was trying to get custody of my great niece and get her out of Foster care. I was falsely accused of using meth by he foster parents who didn't even know me. So I volunteered to do a UA right then and there. CPS told me my urine was too clean so they had to consider it dirty! They had already got Federal Funding to adopt her out to the first time foster parents. Talk about unreliable! Funny, they never detected the pot I had smoked earlier in the morning!
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Yes, it is important, but then look at all the doctors who are dependent on drugs to keep them awake.
doctors usually can sleep when they have down time...and now they have limits on how long a resident can be on call.
they should not be using illegal substances to stay awake..nothing works better than carbs and caffiene anyhow

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That's scary too. I put an "n" instead of "M" at the end of Random!!!!
My experience with a UA was when I was trying to get custody of my great niece and get her out of Foster care. I was falsely accused of using meth by he foster parents who didn't even know me. So I volunteered to do a UA right then and there. CPS told me my urine was too clean so they had to consider it dirty! They had already got Federal Funding to adopt her out to the first time foster parents
that's just flat out ridiculous...I think our policy is if you fail a random one...you get to have a second random one.

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doctors usually can sleep when they have down time...and now they have limits on how long a resident can be on call.
they should not be using illegal substances to stay awake..nothing works better than carbs and caffiene anyhow


that's just flat out ridiculous...I think our policy is if you fail a random one...you get to have a second random one.



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Let me tell you why I failed the UA. I also had blood tests done as well because I have diabetes insipidus, water diabetes. My body flushes every 2 hours when my vasopressin wears off. They put me on methadone for the pain in my back. They watched me take it, an hour later took both blood and urine, didn't detect a thing. My body is in a constant state of flushing, my urine is dilute as is my blood. Now laugh. I will never be able to legally pass a drug test because nothing stays long enough in me to collect in my fat cells.
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Let me tell you why I failed the UA. I also had blood tests done as well because I have diabetes insipidus, water diabetes. My body flushes every 2 hours when my vasopressin wears off. They put me on methadone for the pain in my back. They watched me take it, an hour later took both blood and urine, didn't detect a thing. My body is in a constant state of flushing, my urine is dilute as is my blood. Now laugh. I will never be able to legally pass a drug test because nothing stays long enough in me to stick to my fat cells.
I was laughing because it didn't catch the pot...so it was a "good for you" laugh.
I figured actually that you might have had diabetes insipidus, If you have a medical condition that prevents a normal UA or drug screen...then your not technically failing anything.

there is no court of law that can say you "failed" a drug test because you have D.I.
if some court did..you were screwed.

the next option would be a serum test..which I guess you addressed.

Is it a bad thing not to be able to be accurately screened? I am confused.
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I was screwed. You see if the State doesn't recoginze the disease, therefore it technically does not exsist. The Federal Government does that as well so they don't have to fund reseaerch for that disease. Same with the state, yet thet prescribe you medication for it. I have been the subject of many research studies, not one involved my diabetes even though that has been the root of my medical issues. Courts can be just as tricky.
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Another reason was my brother was injured at work. Another worker dropped a door on him. He had to do a random UA. They said he had alohol and methadose, not methadone, in his system. He quit drinking in 2001, and he doesn't use any drugs, yet he failed and now they are harrassing him at work over it. Think about who really pushes random UA's. The insurance companies. If you don't do it, the companies rates go up. Good people are loosing their jobs not only for something they have not done, but for what they do in the privacy oftheir own home off the clock. Marijuana stays in a mornal person fat cells for about 30 days.
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I was screwed. You see if the State doesn't recoginze the disease, therefore it technically does not exsist. The Federal Government does that as well so they don't have to fund reseaerch for that disease. Same with the state, yet thet prescribe you medication for it. I have been the subject of many research studies, not one involved my diabetes even though that has been the root of my medical issues. Courts can be just as tricky.
well this is disturbing...D.I. is a medical condition, which is treated frequently
but yet, your "state" doesn't recognize it?
hope you had a attorney...
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after some incident, i could see it for a set time period, but just randomly and out of the blue, no.
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