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Old 04-01-2008, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Doctors Support Universal Health Care: Survey

Doctors Support Universal Health Care: Survey
by Maggie Fox
WASHINGTON - More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.

The survey suggests that opinions have changed substantially since the last survey in 2002 and as the country debates serious changes to the health care system.

Of more than 2,000 doctors surveyed, 59 percent said they support legislation to establish a national health insurance program, while 32 percent said they opposed it, researchers reported in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine.

The 2002 survey found that 49 percent of physicians supported national health insurance and 40 percent opposed it.

“Many claim to speak for physicians and represent their views. We asked doctors directly and found that, contrary to conventional wisdom, most doctors support national health insurance,” said Dr. Aaron Carroll of the Indiana University School of Medicine, who led the study.

“As doctors, we find that our patients suffer because of increasing deductibles, co-payments, and restrictions on patient care,” said Dr. Ronald Ackermann, who worked on the study with Carroll. “More and more, physicians are turning to national health insurance as a solution to this problem.”

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The United States has no single organized health care system. Instead it relies on a patchwork of insurance provided by the federal and state governments to the elderly, poor, disabled and to some children, along with private insurance and employer-sponsored plans.

Many other countries have national plans, including Britain, France and Canada, and several studies have shown the United States spends more per capita on health care, without achieving better results for patients.

An estimated 47 million people have no insurance coverage at all, meaning they must pay out of their pockets for health care or skip it.

Contenders in the election for president in November all have proposed various changes, but none of the major party candidates has called for a fully national health plan.

Insurance companies, retailers and other employers have joined forces with unions and other interest groups to propose their own plans.

“Across the board, more physicians feel that our fragmented and for-profit insurance system is obstructing good patient care, and a majority now support national insurance as the remedy,” Ackermann said in a statement.

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a national health insurance plan.

The researchers said they believe the survey was representative of the 800,000 U.S. medical doctors
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Of course they support UH. They'll go out of business with the current system.

Tell me, great noble doctors. So-called 'drug-damage' is what exactly? I'll tell you, since you are inept.

This 'drug-damage' is actually a product of Pavlov's Dog. When you're on the drug, if you do things you do normally, you may find you have some kind of long-term 'damage'. This damage can be undone by reversing Pavlov's Dog technique. It can also be largely avoided by never using drugs while doing normal things or things you do not want the drug-effects applied to in the long-term.

Then again, maybe i'm wrong. Why don't you virtuous doctors, the brilliant individs you are, prove me wrong?
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This study is 100% Bunk! The doctors who did this study also conducted one in 2002 and found that the majority of doctors did not want national health care, the problem with this is that the 2 question surveys drastically differ in there 2nd question. I found this article "60% of Physicians Surveyed Oppose Switching to a National Health Care Plan" It's worth a read.
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This study is 100% Bunk! The doctors who did this study also conducted one in 2002 and found that the majority of doctors did not want national health care, the problem with this is that the 2 question surveys drastically differ in there 2nd question. I found this article "60% of Physicians Surveyed Oppose Switching to a National Health Care Plan" It's worth a read.
What is JajjJoe? Seems like just another piece of shit right wing outlet that had to make up numbers.
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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One of these days, mother nature or mankind is going to find a new and improved way to kill us off. What happens when some sort of virulent disease spreads throughout the populations that aren't checked regularly?

Try this scenario on for size... Some idiot, AQ, Shining Path, the Chechens or whomever, gets their hands on some of the Russian bio-weapon material. That stuff, these days, is guarded by a rusty padlock in the middle of nowhere...

Maybe they intend to release it on a specific group, but the Russians were famous for cutting corners. The stuff releases too soon around a school or a transit system and mutates. It is after all, a bio-weapon, and will adapt to the polling universe it's exposed to.

With global travel the way it is, and the fact that no one right now is looking for this stuff, it could spread like wildfire in a matter of hours. (Anyone remember the moron with TB on his honeymoon in Italy?) Anyone who was unfortunate enough to be on that plane has it now.

The crap spreads among the homeless and the under-insured. By the time the CDC realizes what is going on, the shit has mutated 6 or 7 times now. The disease dosen't care how rich or poor you are, or if you happen to be red or blue, young or old, it truly does not discriminate.

The chickenhawks fail to realize that this too, falls within the purview of national security. If everyone has a file medically speaking, the CDC would have a much easier time isolating the disease. This kind of crap scares me way worse than nukes ever did, and it will be too late to say "I was wrong" when your kids are dying from it...

Just sayin'...
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Hey, The Heretic have you ever heard the saying that is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think your stupid then to open it and have people know your stupid? Try reading what your commenting on before making foolish comments.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey, Shoezacks, which banned, trolling, hack were you before you changed your name?
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I don't believe doctors support universal healthcare for a moment. I had a long conversation with my physician about it, and he and his colleagues adamantly oppose it. They are already bogged down with paperwork that takes far too much time away from their practice. If the government interfers, they expect alot more formalities and extra compliance work.

I think the survey is skewed, which wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
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