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Old 06-01-2008, 10:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Again, I favor pot. I'd much prefer being able to take it in pill form as opposed to having to smoke it though.
If it happens (big if), it takes months if not years to ruin your life with M.J. All it takes is one night with alcohol.

Trust me on these things, I know what I speak of.

The funniest thing is everyone knows what we speak of unless your over 60 and were raised or parenting in the "reefer madness" generation.

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When I went for my temp job I had to take a urine test. Talking to the rep from the agency on the phone he was going over the details the conversation went something like this:

Rep: "Now your going to have to take a urine test, the labs we use are located, blah blah blah blah"

Me: "O.K"

Rep:" You don't have to take the test right away. We get the results within a few days so you can wait right up till the time we place you in a position. This could be up to, if not more then, a month from now" (wink wink hint hint)

Me: "Nah, I'll run over there tommorrow and get it over with"

Rep: "Really?"

Me:" Yeah, no problem. I'll do it tomorrow"

Rep:"You know you can wait right up until the last few days if you like, it's not something we need right now"

He was trying ever so hard to hint that if there's any chance of failing it, I could wait till everything was out my system and then take the test. They get paid by how many people they place and he did everything but tell me to wait.

It was literally a shock to him that I could take the test immediately. I'm not boasting of my lack of drug use, it just so happens that's my lifestyle now. The occasional twig I light up with a friend hadn't happened in a few months so I knew I was completely clean.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I use to smoke daily and when I am writing I usually revert back to that but just in the wee morning hours before sunlight, which is when I'm at my best as for creativity. No way I could stay high all the time these days. Call it age, call it what you will, etc..
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I haven't been there in a while, the quality of posters dropped significantly a few years back. Anyway, how do you do your drugs since you don't drink them? Do you shoot up? Smoke 'em or what? I'm near convinced your a junkie to the tenth degree.


On a serious note. It seems like you're a bit convoluted. Tell me, do you accept medication of any kind be it prescribed, a St. Johns aspirin, or whatnot? How about using spices when you cook, salt, pepper, cayenne, etc...?
Well sure, I think if you need or want a drug and are an adult then it's your body and no one has a right to tell you what you can or cannot put into it. I am totally against this "drug war". What might actually help is if we moved it onto teens instead of filling our prisons with adult users and community service people (pot dealers).

Prevention is not being applied to this epidemic....

On the "serious note", Yup, a cigarette junkie only tho~, I've never been one to take any drug that I can't control the intoxication of.

I am not about resticting drugs for adult's use, medically or recreational..it's absolutely none of my business...or for that matter, none of the government's business either...
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Well at least you can own up to it. To me that means a lot and is more telling of good character; hell we're all hypocritical a bit, one just has to find the right subject matter.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Question: What drug are your most likely to die from while going through a detoxification?

Answer: Alcohol

Alcoholics have to consume so much of the drug to maintain their addictions that the removal of these amounts causes the worst possible side effects while detoxifying. In fact there are some experts now who consider weening a safer (if controlled) way of detoxification, instead of "cold turkey".


Alcohol is also one molecule away from ether. Your essentially anesthetizing yourself slowly. It's much easier to kill yourself with alcohol while using it for normal purposes of mind/mood altering. While a heroine high has a certain pinnacle, as do many other narcotics/drugs, alcohol does not. If your conscious and willing there always seems to be a "more drunker" state you can get yourself in.

Alcohol is also the most disabling drug while using it, both mentally and physically. It effects motor skills, reaction times, mood, consciousness, and nearly all aspects of perception. All more increasingly severe as you consume it.

Blow is similar but the metal state less detrimental (euphoria). The auto responses of the body (heart beat, pulse rate etc etc) are dangerous but the effect is short lived and with stopping usage, so is the danger.

But with alcohol the maximum effect is not achieved till well after consumption. We've all done it (I assume), drank way to much too fast and even though we vomited the worst effects are still to come. Namely unconsciousness. Not vomiting in these circumstances causes many deaths world wide.

I consider alcohol the most dangerous drug I've ever done. What other drug can you name that has you waking up in jail not knowing what you did?
NICE POST. I may use some of that...if that's ok. My g/f is trying to tell me that alcohol is not a narcotic...she may be right, it's WORSE.

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When I went for my temp job I had to take a urine test. Talking to the rep from the agency on the phone he was going over the details the conversation went something like this:

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With pot and drug screens: I'd know ahead of time and would put my herbals in the closet, top shelf of course. I'd push my workout to 2 to 3 miles each run to get it out of my system, pass the test, and start back. The thing was that my wife could not understand how I could just put it down...as she took another drink.
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I am building a "drug facts" label for alcohol products. (see the Drug Facts page). It's already about 8 pages long just listing the bad drug interactions. I still have to add the medical and psychological damage of this drug to the label...it may become a book.

Good news for you liquid drug users: The new bottling may include 8 ft tall containers to allow the "drug facts" lable to fit.

I also have an APA (American Psychiatric Assoc) manual that indicates that alcohol may be WORSE than heroin. The intoxication effects and the withdrawal symptoms from alcohol are worse than from heroin.

I may have to stop calling alcohol a narcotic and invent another category for it.

On the pot front I met with a clinical phychologist who said that any pot use was "chronic use of a controlled dangerous substance"... What an old school moron, probably yet another drinker in denial..

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I may have to stop calling alcohol a narcotic and invent another category for it.

On the pot front I met with a clinical phychologist who said that any pot use was "chronic use of a controlled dangerous substance"... What an old school moron, probably yet another drinker in denial..
Awe, pot was fun back in college days. Now, I can´t say no to a bunch of tapas and a glass of Protos. Sorry. I guess I´m another alcoholic.
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Awe, pot was fun back in college days. Now, I can´t say no to a bunch of tapas and a glass of Protos. Sorry. I guess I´m another alcoholic.
A friend of mine once told me that my (previous) pot use was no different than their alcohol drinking in that we are all looking for "escapes". Self-medicating to mask mental pains from thier past problems.

I replied that I was not "escaping" anything and that the pot was use was for discovering and exploring ideas. I hate that even compare alcohol to pot...what bullshit.

Alcohol leads to harder drugs, pot does only because to buy it you have to from people who may offer harder drugs. Alcohol is the number one gateway to harder narcotics in regards to chemical addictions.

But hey, you're an adult, it's your body and your choice to drink this drug but what isn't fair is society allowing an invionment that urges children to drink it...thus becoming society's burden forever how long the addict lives.

We had another DUI last night, his passender died and he's charged with manslaughter...why was he driving? I don't know this person's life history but there's a huge probability that he had his first drink before he turned 14 and was probably an alcoholic by 17....too late to have a chance to grow up with a clean start...

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I understand it. See, the difference between how people drink at Tulsa (just for the note) and how people drink here where I live is really big. You won´t see guys-gals doing endless shots at a bar, in a quiet mood and alone like over there. A matter of cultures I guess.
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