Alcohol the Narcotic Org

okpfloyd · 06-01-2008, 08:19 AM

I don't know who this guy thinks he is! Putting up information that will piss beer people off...how anti-social can he get?

He’s calling alcohol as bad if not worse than heroin AND is calling teen alcohol use an epidemic! This cannot be because it’s LEGAL!... so how can he equate it with illegal drugs and shouldn't alcohol be encouraged for teens to drink? Epidemic?

We shouldn't be telling this because it may cut into the alcohol industry's profits! I'd HATE that!

What a moron!

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Sean · 06-01-2008, 08:32 AM

I read all of that and didn't see where he said it was worse than heroine. I saw were the AMA classified it as a narcotic and listed barbiturates and heroine as others in that class but didn't state alcohol was equal or worse. All in all I think the sentiment is dead on. No one there is trying to ban beer, etc... They want it classified as a controlled substance and I have no problem with that even though it's not going to happen. Hell I wish pot would be classified as a controlled substance. I would most likely not have another beer if pot were legal. Nah! Beer and baseball go hand in hand.

okpfloyd · 06-01-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I read all of that and didn't see where he said it was worse than heroine. I saw were the AMA classified it as a narcotic and listed barbiturates and heroine as others in that class but didn't state alcohol was equal or worse. All in all I think the sentiment is dead on. No one there is trying to ban beer, etc... They want it classified as a controlled substance and I have no problem with that even though it's not going to happen. Hell I wish pot would be classified as a controlled substance. I would most likely not have another beer if pot were legal. Nah! Beer and baseball go hand in hand.

Perhaps leveling the playing field will help eh? It CAN happen that alcohol is made a "controlled substance" with the exception that it's a legal "controlled substance" for adults..21 yrs or older.

It's an illegal drug like heroin to persons under 21 right? Why can't we do that?

ô¿ô I agree with the guy...lol

Sean · 06-01-2008, 08:53 AM

Yeah I agree with just about everything there. The thing I liked was seeing alcohol called the original gateway drug since the neocons have been using that term for pot for decades now.

okpfloyd · 06-01-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Yeah I agree with just about everything there. The thing I liked was seeing alcohol called the original gateway drug since the neocons have been using that term for pot for decades now.

Actually that's my site....lol...and thanks for being rational, I have many enemies on this subject as you can well imagine...tho~ my main focus is on reducing teen drinking as a way to stop filling our prisons, having so many un-wanted teen pregnancies, college campus rapes, ....etc etc etc..._________, but it inadvertently showed that we do need to level the playing field to reach some sanity in this insane drug war...

Some law enforcement people still regard pot as a "narcotic"...how insane is that huh? But don't dare call alcohol as much as a drug and you get the roll the eyes bit laid on you.

I think society (on this subject) is drunk in their denial...let's shock the monkeys to help change their knowledge so they can accept the simple realities.
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Sean · 06-01-2008, 09:20 AM

Well now I have an issue with your dishonesty. Maybe you should start drinking heavily.

okpfloyd · 06-01-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Well now I have an issue with your dishonesty. Maybe you should start drinking heavily.

LOL, You are probably not from Bill Maher's site right? I had this issue on there and I was attacked from all sides, the deception was for them to (hopefully) laugh about...re-approaching them with humor and attacking myself first...lol...and no thanks, I don't drink drugs

disfigured · 06-01-2008, 09:27 AM

Question: What drug are your most likely to die from while going through a detoxification?

Answer: Alcohol

Alcoholics have to consume so much of the drug to maintain their addictions that the removal of these amounts causes the worst possible side effects while detoxifying. In fact there are some experts now who consider weening a safer (if controlled) way of detoxification, instead of "cold turkey".

Alcohol is also one molecule away from ether. Your essentially anesthetizing yourself slowly. It's much easier to kill yourself with alcohol while using it for normal purposes of mind/mood altering. While a heroine high has a certain pinnacle, as do many other narcotics/drugs, alcohol does not. If your conscious and willing there always seems to be a "more drunker" state you can get yourself in.

Alcohol is also the most disabling drug while using it, both mentally and physically. It effects motor skills, reaction times, mood, consciousness, and nearly all aspects of perception. All more increasingly severe as you consume it.

Blow is similar but the metal state less detrimental (euphoria). The auto responses of the body (heart beat, pulse rate etc etc) are dangerous but the effect is short lived and with stopping usage, so is the danger.

But with alcohol the maximum effect is not achieved till well after consumption. We've all done it (I assume), drank way to much too fast and even though we vomited the worst effects are still to come. Namely unconsciousness. Not vomiting in these circumstances causes many deaths world wide.

I consider alcohol the most dangerous drug I've ever done. What other drug can you name that has you waking up in jail not knowing what you did?

Sean · 06-01-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by okpfloyd

LOL, You are probably not from Bill Maher's site right? I had this issue on there and I was attacked from all sides, the deception was for them to (hopefully) laugh about...re-approaching them with humor and attacking myself first...lol...and no thanks, I don't drink drugs

I haven't been there in a while, the quality of posters dropped significantly a few years back. Anyway, how do you do your drugs since you don't drink them? Do you shoot up? Smoke 'em or what? I'm near convinced your a junkie to the tenth degree.

On a serious note. It seems like you're a bit convoluted. Tell me, do you accept medication of any kind be it prescribed, a St. Johns aspirin, or whatnot? How about using spices when you cook, salt, pepper, cayenne, etc...?

Sean · 06-01-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by disfigured

Question: What drug are your most likely to die from while going through a detoxification?

Answer: Alcohol

Alcoholics have to consume so much of the drug to maintain their addictions that the removal of these amounts causes the worst possible side effects while detoxifying. In fact there are some experts now who consider weening a safer (if controlled) way of detoxification, instead of "cold turkey".

Alcohol is also one molecule away from ether. Your essentially anesthetizing yourself slowly. It's much easier to kill yourself with alcohol while using it for normal purposes of mind/mood altering. While a heroine high has a certain pinnacle, as do many other narcotics/drugs, alcohol does not. If your conscious and willing there always seems to be a "more drunker" state you can get yourself in.

Alcohol is also the most disabling drug while using it, both mentally and physically. It effects motor skills, reaction times, mood, consciousness, and nearly all aspects of perception. All more increasingly severe as you consume it.

Blow is similar but the metal state less detrimental (euphoria). The auto responses of the body (heart beat, pulse rate etc etc) are dangerous but the effect is short lived and with stopping usage, so is the danger.

But with alcohol the maximum effect is not achieved till well after consumption. We've all done it (I assume), drank way to much too fast and even though we vomited the worst effects are still to come. Namely unconsciousness. Not vomiting in these circumstances causes many deaths world wide.

I consider alcohol the most dangerous drug I've ever done. What other drug can you name that has you waking up in jail not knowing what you did?

Again, I favor pot. I'd much prefer being able to take it in pill form as opposed to having to smoke it though.

06-01-2008, 08:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
okpfloyd Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 352 My Mood: Thanks: 20 Thanked 29 Times in 16 Posts	Alcohol the Narcotic Org I don't know who this guy thinks he is! Putting up information that will piss beer people off...how anti-social can he get? He’s calling alcohol as bad if not worse than heroin AND is calling teen alcohol use an epidemic! This cannot be because it’s LEGAL!... so how can he equate it with illegal drugs and shouldn't alcohol be encouraged for teens to drink? Epidemic? We shouldn't be telling this because it may cut into the alcohol industry's profits! I'd HATE that! What a moron! Home Page ô¿ô
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06-01-2008, 08:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austin, Texas...ya'll Posts: 1,552 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	I read all of that and didn't see where he said it was worse than heroine. I saw were the AMA classified it as a narcotic and listed barbiturates and heroine as others in that class but didn't state alcohol was equal or worse. All in all I think the sentiment is dead on. No one there is trying to ban beer, etc... They want it classified as a controlled substance and I have no problem with that even though it's not going to happen. Hell I wish pot would be classified as a controlled substance. I would most likely not have another beer if pot were legal. Nah! Beer and baseball go hand in hand. __________________
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06-01-2008, 08:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austin, Texas...ya'll Posts: 1,552 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Yeah I agree with just about everything there. The thing I liked was seeing alcohol called the original gateway drug since the neocons have been using that term for pot for decades now. __________________
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06-01-2008, 09:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Sean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austin, Texas...ya'll Posts: 1,552 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Well now I have an issue with your dishonesty. Maybe you should start drinking heavily. __________________
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06-01-2008, 09:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
disfigured Who me? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lowell MA USA Posts: 956 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 39 Times in 30 Posts	Question: What drug are your most likely to die from while going through a detoxification? Answer: Alcohol Alcoholics have to consume so much of the drug to maintain their addictions that the removal of these amounts causes the worst possible side effects while detoxifying. In fact there are some experts now who consider weening a safer (if controlled) way of detoxification, instead of "cold turkey". Alcohol is also one molecule away from ether. Your essentially anesthetizing yourself slowly. It's much easier to kill yourself with alcohol while using it for normal purposes of mind/mood altering. While a heroine high has a certain pinnacle, as do many other narcotics/drugs, alcohol does not. If your conscious and willing there always seems to be a "more drunker" state you can get yourself in. Alcohol is also the most disabling drug while using it, both mentally and physically. It effects motor skills, reaction times, mood, consciousness, and nearly all aspects of perception. All more increasingly severe as you consume it. Blow is similar but the metal state less detrimental (euphoria). The auto responses of the body (heart beat, pulse rate etc etc) are dangerous but the effect is short lived and with stopping usage, so is the danger. But with alcohol the maximum effect is not achieved till well after consumption. We've all done it (I assume), drank way to much too fast and even though we vomited the worst effects are still to come. Namely unconsciousness. Not vomiting in these circumstances causes many deaths world wide. I consider alcohol the most dangerous drug I've ever done. What other drug can you name that has you waking up in jail not knowing what you did? __________________
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