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Study: Vegan diet shrinks brain

Eating veggies shrinks the brain-Health/Sci-The Times of India

MELBOURNE: Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.

Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish. Vitamin B12 deficiency can also cause anaemia and inflammation of the nervous system. Yeast extracts are one of the few vegetarian foods which provide good levels of the vitamin.

The link was discovered by Oxford University scientists who used memory tests, physical checks and brain scans to examine 107 people between the ages of 61 and 87.

When the volunteers were retested five years later the medics found those with the lowest levels of vitamin B12 were also the most likely to have brain shrinkage. It confirms earlier research showing a link between brain atrophy and low levels of B12.

Brain scans of more than 1,800 people found that people who downed 14 drinks or more a week had 1.6% more brain shrinkage than teetotallers. Women in their seventies were the most at risk.

Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.

And being overweight or obese is linked to brain loss, Swedish researchers discovered. Scans of around 300 women found that those with brain shrink had an average body mass index of 27 And for every one point increase in their BMI the loss rose by 13 to 16%.
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explains a lot really

Good thing I'm a beer drinker too
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Eating veggies shrinks the brain-Health/Sci-The Times of India

MELBOURNE: Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.

Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish. Vitamin B12 deficiency can also cause anaemia and inflammation of the nervous system. Yeast extracts are one of the few vegetarian foods which provide good levels of the vitamin.

The link was discovered by Oxford University scientists who used memory tests, physical checks and brain scans to examine 107 people between the ages of 61 and 87.

When the volunteers were retested five years later the medics found those with the lowest levels of vitamin B12 were also the most likely to have brain shrinkage. It confirms earlier research showing a link between brain atrophy and low levels of B12.

Brain scans of more than 1,800 people found that people who downed 14 drinks or more a week had 1.6% more brain shrinkage than teetotallers. Women in their seventies were the most at risk.

Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.

And being overweight or obese is linked to brain loss, Swedish researchers discovered. Scans of around 300 women found that those with brain shrink had an average body mass index of 27 And for every one point increase in their BMI the loss rose by 13 to 16%.
This also demonstrates that eating meat isn't the cause of obesity.

But, further it's more proof of why humans are omnivores.

And explains why arguing with vegetarians has been a waste of time.

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explains a lot really

Good thing I'm a beer drinker too
Yep and yep!
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This also demonstrates that eating meat isn't the cause of obesity.

But, further it's more proof of why humans are omnivores.

And explains why arguing with vegetarians has been a waste of time.

"D'oh!!"
Of course, eating meat isn't the cause of obesity. In fact, it's one of the only things that doesn't have carbs. To eat a diet of lean meat and veggies is probably the healthiest way to go. It's the carbs that pack on the pounds.
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Meat meat! Pinchitos de pollo con una birra o dos si son chicas. MMMM!
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Of course, eating meat isn't the cause of obesity. In fact, it's one of the only things that doesn't have carbs. To eat a diet of lean meat and veggies is probably the healthiest way to go. It's the carbs that pack on the pounds.
I knew that already, that was just picking at an open sore of vegetarians claiming otherwise.
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Vegans have their hearts in the right place but
shrinkage and stabiization of the human population is the real answer.

Carbs do NOT cause obesity.
Some carbs cause PUFFINESS which is very different to the inside of the blood vessals.

3 things cause obesity
1. high-fat diet WITH OR WITHOUT MEAT
2. lack of activity.
Muscle is the ONLY fat-burning tissue in vertabrates
3. These, tremendously, obese children ARE the next branch of evolution.
Already proven.
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The solution is STILL weight-lifting.
Muscle is the ONLY fat-burning tissue in vertabrates
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Vegans have their hearts in the right place but
shrinkage and stabiization of the human population is the real answer.

Carbs do NOT cause obesity.
Some carbs cause PUFFINESS which is very different to the inside of the blood vessals.

3 things cause obesity
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Already proven.
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The solution is STILL weight-lifting.
Muscle is the ONLY fat-burning tissue in vertabrates
Obesity isn't the next stages of evolution, rather it's a clue to our past evolution when food was scarce. There's nothing in today's environment to favor obesity over normal. And, since it's only been a few generations that's not enough for evolution to act on it in an appreciable way.
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Obesity isn't the next stages of evolution, rather it's a clue to our past evolution when food was scarce. There's nothing in today's environment to favor obesity over normal. And, since it's only been a few generations that's not enough for evolution to act on it in an appreciable way.
This is not my statement.
It is the finding of the Genome Project
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