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Old 11-20-2007, 09:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You're sure there is other assistance, but you don't know? Taking the money back is sick. These kids are ruined for life and we want to put them in debt. I am sure most of that money is gone, what are they going to do put liens on their houses, ruin their credit for serving their country when they are disabled, and unable to get a job???? This is incredible.
I am with you..lose a leg..keep a bonus.
sounds frickin reasonable to me.
I can't believe anyone in their right mind would argue.

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Old 11-20-2007, 09:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am with you..lose a leg..keep a bonus.
sounds frickin reasonable to me.
I can't believe anyone in their right mind would argue.

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No. Lose a leg and get proper care for it.

Can't perform the contract means pay up what you owe.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No. Lose a leg and get proper care for it.

Can't perform the contract means pay up what you owe.
make sure and keep us updated from the field soldier....
can't wait to see how "unemotional" you are when your leg looks like a 50lbs of hamburger from Mcdonalds

your damn right it's emotional
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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30K all up front just to get signed up? Fuck, I'd load myself up with disability and life insurances with that money and really be all I can be, then have a paid second education plus veteran benefits and chances to earn security clearances for future cushy jobs.

Where do I sign up?
I hear there is shortage, I'm sure they will take you. Hurry to your local Army recruiter to get your BLOOD MONEY!!
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I hear there is shortage, I'm sure they will take you. Hurry to your local Army recruiter to get your BLOOD MONEY!!
they are taking away bonuses from these soldiers and last week we heard 25% of homeless people are veterans, seems to me that money could get a down payment on a home..

we did the repubs start to hate the soldiers?
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The more I read about this, the more it stinks to high heaven. I wonder what the candidates are going to do with this info. I say refuse to pay.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The more I read about this, the more it stinks to high heaven. I wonder what the candidates are going to do with this info. I say refuse to pay.
who knows...candidates get pretty slippery come election time..
but this is the sort of issue that everyone can agree on. (well, almost everyone)

if any candidate had a clue..they would address it. It's about time some democrat keeps calling out the repukes on the military frauds they are.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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They get treatment for the injuries, for life. I'm sure there are other assistances and aid.

$30K contract should go back when performance is not possible.
Then I suggest you run down to your ARMY recruiter ASAP - get the quick-sign up bonus, get an accelerated basic and advanced infantry training package (half-ass training), give the bonus $$$ to your wife and kids struggling to make a rent payment, get deployed to Iraq, save lives, kill a few insurgents, watch your buddies die and get maimed... in short - give it your all and then a few months into the gig - BAM... an IED tears into your Bradley, rips your arm off, burns your hips and nuts off, and use of your left leg is 90% gone...

Then go thru the ARMY hospital scene for months... then get sent home to enjoy the VA system... and get a measly $1,500.00 monthly check. Meanwhile, your wife leaves you because you traded alcohol for the impotent pain pills... and you get stuck with her taking your whole check. You go to the VA for help and they tell you to come back next month to see a counselor that does not exist due to the overbooking...

So you go to skid row, and then your ex-wife says The ARMY wants that bonus money back - at least 65% of it.

So - you seem to know how well the system works brother... when are you enlisting? Will you send us postcards a year later when you're on the street? Give it a rest until you have a context of what you are spewing... And BTW - the bonus is taxed at about 40% and you don't see a dime until you complete training and get assigned to a unit
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You seem to have skipped the part about loading myself up with insurance using that 60% after tax bonus. That bonus means, wife and kid get nada, if I come home safely in one piece.

Yes, the $1500+whatever my disability insurance pays for that blown off nut. I'll make sure to get the kind of coverage that's enough to fit me a few errr exotic prosthesis and pays for my own private counseling.

What's even better is the $$$ my wife and kid will get if I die for my country.

It's all good.

What's not good? I'm too old, and at the trade-off point where it's actually a break even for the risk and benefit. Some might call it the mid life crisis.

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You seem skipped the part about loading myself up with insurance using that 60% after tax bonus. That bonus means, wife and kid get nada, if I come home safely in one piece.

Yes, the $1500+whatever my disability insurance pays for that blown off nut. I'll make sure to get the kind of coverage that's enough to fit me a few errr exotic prosthesis and pays for my own private counseling.

What's even better is the $$$ my wife and kid will get if I die for my country.

It's all good.
You son - are a pathetic wannabe... I was describing my stepson you ditzhead. You are nothing and less. He lost both his nuts friend (you missed the part of they were both burned off - he can't get it up anymore). What a piece of work you are. Pay attention fool.

I affectionally call him "numbnutz" - I'm allowed. You are not in the club - he'd take you down in a blink with his one good leg. I'm allowed because I actually went - twice. What's your lame-ass wussy excuse for existing.

Walk the talk & we'll shake your hand and thank you. BS the reality and you do not exist behind the PC you hide on. And to set you straight - dig this ditz - look exactlly at the educational levels of the kids The ARMY is coaxing in - with the bonuses... Most of them have no idea of what those contracts say - they're HS and GED kids. They don't have Daddy to go and read the contracts. Damn - I forgot... you're a self-professed intellectual and free-form thinker. You are better than most of those kids. You have the edge of taking the business for profit approach...

My bad... so sorry... You seem to think these contracts are just like your favorite pro-football player: he gets hurt, can't play and his bonus goes away... and you disown him because he failed you on your betting investment.

I hope you never, ever see a combat situation - you DO NOT have what it takes... But that will never happen, because you see yourself as too smart and better than everyone else. You would not even make it out of basic training w/o getting your sorry ass kicked B/4 they throw you out with a crappy discharge. Careful who you think you are negotiating with. One thing I learned from all of the terror and murder - never, ever underestimate your enemy... you have one strike son... And with that - I bid you a good night and be off... ta-ta... go on... go away... we are done with you... you do not exist...

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