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Old 10-25-2007, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New York's plan

It seems that NY is going to give drivers licenses and registrations to vote to illegal immigrants.

This seems crazy.

Anyone here know what motivates this?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, HELLO! We've been looking for you!

WELCOME!



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No, I don't know anything about this, but I'm in favor of it. See how easily I took a side without any knowledge on the subject.

Actually, I would think the city where the Statue of Liberty resides would be quite open to immigrants, illegal, legal, purple, green, speaking English, Martian, or whatever. THIS IS AMERIA! We don't own freedom, we promote it, encourage it, give it away.

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"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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We need immigration.

We also need a guest book.

My guess is that they are thinking that at least by providing drivers liscenses they can keep track ? + I bet some truck driving companies might have an interest in the labor implications.

...I would argue that proir to becoming citizens, people should not be allowed to vote....

Difficult + complicated issue w/ vast implications.

But at the base level, I guess I side w/ Teri...Land of the free and all....
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes. It's obvious what's motivating this. Votes. Illegal ALIENS, if given the opportunity, will vote democrat. With two of the most prominent democrat senators in the nation, this can only mean votes for them; payback for allowing illegal ALIENS to stay and have a voice in our democratic process. Additionally, democrats historically have supported entitlement spending and programs, so that simply adds to it.

My God, Hillary is desperate to win the whitehouse. Allowing illegal ALIENS to vote...what kind of slap in the face is it to legal IMMIGRANTS, those who followed the law and waited years for citizenship? Awful, and I hope it friggin' backfires.
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Yes. It's obvious what's motivating this. Votes. Illegal ALIENS, if given the opportunity, will vote democrat. With two of the most prominent democrat senators in the nation, this can only mean votes for them; payback for allowing illegal ALIENS to stay and have a voice in our democratic process. Additionally, democrats historically have supported entitlement spending and programs, so that simply adds to it.

My God, Hillary is desperate to win the whitehouse. Allowing illegal ALIENS to vote...what kind of slap in the face is it to legal IMMIGRANTS, those who followed the law and waited years for citizenship? Awful, and I hope it friggin' backfires.

This isn't NY's senators, it's NY's governor.

Problem here is that no one covers the issue in detail; just sound bites.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes. It's obvious what's motivating this. Votes. Illegal ALIENS, if given the opportunity, will vote democrat. With two of the most prominent democrat senators in the nation, this can only mean votes for them; payback for allowing illegal ALIENS to stay and have a voice in our democratic process. Additionally, democrats historically have supported entitlement spending and programs, so that simply adds to it.

My God, Hillary is desperate to win the whitehouse. Allowing illegal ALIENS to vote...what kind of slap in the face is it to legal IMMIGRANTS, those who followed the law and waited years for citizenship? Awful, and I hope it friggin' backfires.
They still won't be able vote until they become citizens, Cookie. That's not going to change.

As for allowing them to have drivers licenses, I don't have a problem with it.
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Yes. It's obvious what's motivating this. Votes. Illegal ALIENS, if given the opportunity, will vote democrat. With two of the most prominent democrat senators in the nation, this can only mean votes for them; payback for allowing illegal ALIENS to stay and have a voice in our democratic process. Additionally, democrats historically have supported entitlement spending and programs, so that simply adds to it.

My God, Hillary is desperate to win the whitehouse. Allowing illegal ALIENS to vote...what kind of slap in the face is it to legal IMMIGRANTS, those who followed the law and waited years for citizenship? Awful, and I hope it friggin' backfires.
Cripes. Come on. YOU may be that gullible, but we aren't. It's hard enough for an American citizen to vote, much less an illegal alien. Bat shit stupid scare tactics don't work anymore,
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They don't even need a SSN for shits sake! So basically we are giving them a free pass that Americans can't even use, it's total bullshit. I am all for being fair but that is definitely a special privilage. Change it to where Americans don't have to show any credentials either and I'll buy it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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They don't even need a SSN for shits sake! So basically we are giving them a free pass that Americans can't even use, it's total bullshit. I am all for being fair but that is definitely a special privilage. Change it to where Americans don't have to show any credentials either and I'll buy it.
What, are you afraid someone will have to give up their IPOD or SUV so that other human beings can work at shit jobs for shit wages to put a little food in their kids' mouths?

Us and them - makes me ashamed of my country. Do we stand for ANYTHING anymore? Sometimes I think maybe Pieter Pooper was right . . .

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They still won't be able vote until they become citizens, Cookie. That's not going to change.

As for allowing them to have drivers licenses, I don't have a problem with it.
That's part of the problem. They can register to vote when they get their license. It's part of the package. It's one of the things the opponents put in their soundbites.
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