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Old 01-23-2008, 07:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I see you spent some time on that one.

Impressive.
Not impressive at all, I came to the thread a bit late, the response itself required only seconds.
If you wish to be impressive, spend some time here.
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm all for this as long as it's meant to counter, I think going on the offensive too strongly can hurt him as it has Hillary. I say go for it and keep fighting the good fight. I don't expect the Hillary supporters to take too well to it, if he's not fighting back he's crying, if he is he's attacking so it's a no winner for them. But for me this is a good move if done in moderation.
Th worst of this is how the media [bought and paid for by Hillary's cmpaign] are claiming it's two way sniping, when in fact it's really only one way. Obama hasn't been smearing anyone in this campaign at all. Hillary dragged it down to this level of oozing slime, because it's the only way she can prevent the media attention from focusing on her own shortcomings. The only peope helped by Hillary's smear'n'fear are republicans, and yes she has validated even the sleeziest of their tactics by doing the same.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Th worst of this is how the media [bought and paid for by Hillary's cmpaign] are claiming it's two way sniping, when in fact it's really only one way. Obama hasn't been smearing anyone in this campaign at all. Hillary dragged it down to this level of oozing slime, because it's the only way she can prevent the media attention from focusing on her own shortcomings. The only peope helped by Hillary's smear'n'fear are republicans, and yes she has validated even the sleeziest of their tactics by doing the same.

Just because you've always hated Hillary Clinton doesn't mean any of that tripe above is true. Even in the recent debate, Obama was the first to snipe with his jib about his competitors' votes in his very first spoken words on stage, and then he was the first to dig at Hillary with that little Walmart jab. Jib/jab - huh? I made a funny.

Anyway, seems to me in this campaign, as with most of them, people see what they want to see.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Th worst of this is how the media [bought and paid for by Hillary's cmpaign] are claiming it's two way sniping, when in fact it's really only one way. Obama hasn't been smearing anyone in this campaign at all. Hillary dragged it down to this level of oozing slime, because it's the only way she can prevent the media attention from focusing on her own shortcomings. The only peope helped by Hillary's smear'n'fear are republicans, and yes she has validated even the sleeziest of their tactics by doing the same.
Where exactly is all this evidence of the media being bought and paid for by the Hillary campaign? The press, and editorials have been almost universally critical of her campaign tactics of late.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Just because you've always hated Hillary Clinton doesn't mean any of that tripe above is true.
You're right. The fact it's been proven many times by unbiased sources is why what I posted is true.

And if she wouldn't constant sell us out to the right wing and corporate interests [along with the previously mentioned republican campaign playbook she lives by] I'd have no reason to hate her. She has no business in any government position at all and should resign from the senate in disgrace.

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Even in the recent debate, Obama was the first to snipe with his jib about his competitors' votes in his very first spoken words on stage, and then he was the first to dig at Hillary with that little Walmart jab. Jib/jab - huh? I made a funny.
What you call "sniping" was in fact Obama having to correct Hillary's bullshit.

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Anyway, seems to me in this campaign, as with most of them, people see what they want to see.
In my case I have no dog in this fight [fuckin' Iowa!!] so I see it how it is. I knew Kerry would go out of his way to lose in 2004, and you suckers kept insisting I had to be wrong. Well guess what. It's fuckin' Groundhog Day all over again.
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