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Old 02-12-2008, 12:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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making it big doesn't make it anymore important...or relevant

Personally I don't care...cause its just a tax return it won't tell you anything you don't already know
Hey congrats dude, you've now taken up two posts to tell us you don't care.

Got it.

Now, back to the topic:

WHAT

ARE

THE

CLINTONS

HIDING?
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hey congrats dude, you've now taken up two posts to tell us you don't care.

Got it.

Now, back to the topic:

WHAT

ARE

THE

CLINTONS

HIDING?
Nothing???? They don't want their returns public??? It's no one's business but theirs? It has no effect on the campaign or the political world?
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Okay kblair, I'll give you some time on this.

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Nothing???? They don't want their returns public???
That is factually incorrect. The Clintons have vowed to release their returns IF Hillary wins the nomination.

So, the will do maintain transparency and full disclosure of their finances -a premise that has never escaped any candidate running for office- is supposedly in compliance with the norm (despite your views to the contrary).

The question is, why are they holding out with an "if and until" strategy? What awaits discovery then that can't be shared now? Why the delay? What's different about then and now? What are the Clintons hiding?

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It has no effect on the campaign or the political world?
Again, you are wrong.

The current effect is suspicious hesitance to reveal their returns.

Any effect that could evolve from disclosure remains to be seen.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Nothing???? They don't want their returns public??? It's no one's business but theirs? It has no effect on the campaign or the political world?
I have to agree, it's really their own business. Hillary said "if" she wins the nomination and that hasn't happened. If this were the Clinton's all over Obama about it I would feel the same way.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Nothing???? They don't want their returns public??? It's no one's business but theirs? It has no effect on the campaign or the political world?
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I have to agree, it's really their own business. Hillary said "if" she wins the nomination and that hasn't happened. If this were the Clinton's all over Obama about it I would feel the same way.
There is a valid concern here which is where did the $5mil come from. Bill has also not released who is giving $$ to his library. It is being speculated that there are many cross-over donations from library and campaign donors.

It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.

The sooner they release their tax records, the better.

I posted a column from Frank Rich that does into detail about the issue of donors. I'll go pull it up. I believe it has Billary in the title.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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There is a valid concern here which is where did the $5mil come from. Bill has also not released who is giving $$ to his library. It is being speculated that there are many cross-over donations from library and campaign donors.

It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.

The sooner they release their tax records, the better.

I posted a column from Frank Rich that does into detail about the issue of donors. I'll go pull it up. I believe it has Billary in the title.

Thank you.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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There is a valid concern here which is where did the $5mil come from. Bill has also not released who is giving $$ to his library. It is being speculated that there are many cross-over donations from library and campaign donors.

It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.

The sooner they release their tax records, the better.

I posted a column from Frank Rich that does into detail about the issue of donors. I'll go pull it up. I believe it has Billary in the title.
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Thank you.
I dragged it up, Theta.

It's in Gen Pol Disc called
The Billary Road to Republican Victory.

Valid concerns, there re: clinton donations.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:08 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There is a valid concern here which is where did the $5mil come from. Bill has also not released who is giving $$ to his library. It is being speculated that there are many cross-over donations from library and campaign donors.

It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.

The sooner they release their tax records, the better.

I posted a column from Frank Rich that does into detail about the issue of donors. I'll go pull it up. I believe it has Billary in the title.
This isn't Frank Rich column, but link to "Hillary's Curious Campaign Loan", by Nat Parry, Consotrium News, 02/09/08:

Consortiumnews.com

[One of last sentences from above article: "With her campaign emulating strategies pioneered by Karl Rove, the question arises as to why Americans should expect a break from the cronyism and corruption that have defined the Bush administration."]
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It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.
Field day? You betcha! If Clinton really did take money from the Saudis for her campaign, she could go to prison.
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It is being speculated that Saudis are giving money to the library and maybe the campaign. The saudis would have a vested interest in a clinton presidency.

The Republicans would have a field day with all of this.
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Field day? You betcha! If Clinton really did take money from the Saudis for her campaign, she could go to prison.
Thanks, forgot about that.
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