PursuitOfHappinessParty

Just because you're losing the argument doesn't mean you have to get snippy. I'm not taking this personal, it's just that you have opinion while I have facts.


You can buy rat poison, baseball bat, knives, etc at Wal-Mart too. I know what you're saying, and I agree in that there has to be a back-ground check. Anything easier is insane, once a person has proven his inability to have a gun in American society then he has forfeited his right to own one. Just hasn't forfeited mine.


I prefer to concetrate on what he did with them. If I had been at that school, it would've been less students dead and one dead nutjob. Betcha the guns were bought illegally tho, because in all the rest of these 'cases' given of crazed gunmen they were obtained thru ulterior means.

Scary police state world you wish to live in.

Victims don't care what killed them, true. Society should care greatly. That would be the difference wouldn't it. Illegality of the gun is immaterial, so then the banning would be the same. The action is illegal and that's the part society should and does deal with, without destroying our already under-fire citizen rights.


Proving it wasn't the gun, it was the system. Background checks are there for a reason. If you don't use them, it's like saying unused seat-belts are an argument for banning seatbelts.


It's impossible. In the 80s, when I went to college, you could've carried a bazooka into the school. A couple of shootings later, you have more security. As the US is learning with the 'war on terror', the harder you squeeze the more situations slip thru your fingers. These nuts only have to examine the scenario to find the way to accomplish what they wish. Security and banning be damned. History shows if you would but see.


We have a license-to-conceal in Texas, and guess what? There's still violent crime. Guess what? We have seen a drastic reduction in all crimes. Guess what? That scenario is replayed everytime in every state. Guess what? Same thing in Virginia.
So I guess those student's high profile deaths are worth more than those saved with that state's license-to-conceal laws. How cheaply you give away your rights as a citizen.


Less people dead. Processed and tabulated. I win. My rights win.

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ThetaBurst

Well, let's see how much they laugh if they try to get through our airport security now.

gonzo

Anyone (and I mean anyone) can get their hands on guns, so that's not the point is it? Outlaw them all then sit back and watch: nothing will change. People like POHP and me will still own our firearms and protect ourselves. (The local yeehaw law would play hell trying to find my weapons should they be outlawed.) Criminals will still have no problem getting guns for their crimes, and whackjobs would simply buy them from criminals. It's a very lucrative business in this country.

More often than not when my squad detains a suspect with a gun it winds up being stolen or having the serial numbers removed. (I have to "run them" through NCIC before they can be placed into the evidence lockup.)

PursuitOfHappinessParty

Private property with a private security camera. Didn't save the girl as the camera doesn't have a gun. You caught him, but what about the legion of sickos behind him. She would've been better off with a gun in her purse or if I had been parked near-by.

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Rollerball

There you go, but I'm sure your 3 yr old nephew looked like an Al Qaeda type, full beard, turban, all that right?

Gun control always comes up as an argument when these things happen, it's been argued to death and I'm tired of it. Guns or no guns there will always be people with broken minds. It doesn't help when we as a society glorify violence the way we do, some of these shooters may have taken another route, or maybe it's just our nature. We haven't come all that far from the trees.

anhailla

WHOA.!..take it easy, I spent 3 freaking hours defending the police last night on this board.


I must have missed something, I don't think people with severe emotional problems should be able to buy guns for starters....

How many criminals did the Virginia Tech murderer know? His guns came from the store.

That was the point.

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anhailla

what EXACTLY are you upset about? Security on college campuses?

At airports?

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gonzo

Bigot much? If that was alluding to me being a redneck: you don't know me, so until you do know me kindly stop judging me on unfounded ideals.

And I listen to KoRn, thank you.

PursuitOfHappinessParty

You're the only thing repeating itself, and so far it's opinion upon opinion. Still waiting for something concrete. As to history, all these examples are of crazies that shouldn't have passed the background checks or they got their guns illegally.
See the guys with guns weren't allowed to have them at these locations. Licence-to-conceal is voided in these areas, and your gun and license does no good in the car's glovebox out in the parking lot. I don't actually like LS, I'm more a classical music type. Don't remember these murderers being Skynard fans nor did they have license-to-conceal permits so I guess you are just rambling once again.

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