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I guess people expect them to stand outside the Chinese embassy in teh rain looking as pathetic as possible [with no news coverage, so no one knows about it] and say, "Pretty please with sugar on top, please stop killing us."

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guest1234567

Well let's just look again at what happened.

The same people who watch the news are still watching the news and learning the same thing. The end result of this current strategy has been that absolutely nobody learned anything new. Except for people who pass up the first couple of sections in the paper and go straight to the sports pages, and those people like sports more than current affairs.

We are able to talk about this now because we have seen what's going on, on both the internet and tv. In fact BBCA had great footage showing the military precense in Tibet before this.

The message is a desparate one, there is no debating that. The only debate is how to effectively communicate this. I will say again, this current strategy failed and will probably only result in ending the torch parade. Then there will be no more protestors on the parade route, effectively ending this campaign with little gained.

It will take Buddhist countries, such as Japan, to step up. Nothing can be done without them. For all the talk about ex-pat Tibetans, they are simply too small a force to accomplish anything by themselves.

I've suggested things to attempt that will not rely on a significant event to rally around, rather it will rely upon organization skills that have more to do with accomplishment than emotional outbursts. That's the path to take. Peacefully protest around all government capitals. But do it sitting down so as not to pose any threat of violence or riot. Do the same at embassies, not just Chinese, but all of the ones that could help.

guest1234567

And why would there be no news coverage? They covered the frackin Scientology protests, and that is certainly less significant.

cheapseats

But infinitely more star-studded.

The bottom line is always money...that's why they call it the bottom line.

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And pat ourselves on our collective back for our informed enlightenment?

Talk doesn't put food in people's stomachs. Internet awareness doesn't mean fuck-all if a profit can still be turned by bullets flying and people dying.

People don't figure in the bottom line.

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cheapseats

Money doesn't just talk, money's got a megaphone. And Enforcers.

Therefore, two words and I rest my case.

Economic sanctions.


We can begin by turning over defense of Japan to Japan. I understand the rationale-read-that-non-rationale-read-that-fear that inspired our leaders to forbid Japan, for all time, to have a Navy and that we, instead, would provide their defense but...no doubt because we have always perceived whatever we are the center of to be the whole shebang...it comes to our attention that GLOBAL LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED.

Call it Reversal of Fortune.

Defend yourselves.

If it's every man for himself right here in the States, we sure as hell don't need to be spending American taxpayer dollars covering your backs.

Let's find out...all of us, worldwide...which if any of these sizable-not-to-say-super powers are crazy enough to go Armageddon on the whole rest of the world.


America professes to be a Christian nation.

It is incumbent upon Christians...those whose Faith is predicated on the teachings of Chirst and observed in Churchs that are inexplicably not paying taxes like the rest of us...to care for the least among us.

This is not debatable.

The dollar is Almighty in America.

This is not debatable.

The American economy-read-that-business...though not labor, which is largely trapped...is firmly globalized. America has valuable interests lying outside its own borders, therefore America has vital responsibilities lying outside its own borders.

Are genocide and ethnic cleansing our Business, or are they not?

We the People have to make a decision about that. What is the direction we want to go? We cannot be all things to all people...it isn't achievable, even if it were desirable.

But what America absolutely MUST stop doing...or I, for one, am done with this swaggering, bullying, brutal, callous country...is throwing our considerable if hypocritical weight around only where and when it is in the keen financial interest of a Few to do so.



That's the path to take after they are as afraid as they have made us. Otherwise, they can insulate themselves from anything.


I am recalling that a movie about Malcolm X and another about women's suffrage, perhaps called Iron Eagles, are instructive on this point.

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LOL............ That sounds a lot different..... @ least to me than your initial attacks on these ppl for their protests.........


They must do what they believe is in their (not yours or mine) best interests.........


Keep in mind or perhaps you are just aware of the modern origins of this "flame"..........

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The flame at the 2002 Winter Olympics

The Olympic Flame, Olympic Fire, Olympic Torch, Olympic Light, Olympic Eye, and Olympic Sun are all names for an important marketing promotion and symbol of the Olympic Games. Commemorating the theft of fire from the Greek god Zeus by Prometheus, its origins lie in ancient Greece, when a fire was kept burning throughout the celebration of the ancient Olympics. The fire was reintroduced at the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam, and it has been part of the modern Olympic Games ever since. The relay of the flame from Greece to the site of the modern games had no ancient precedent and was introduced by Carl Diem, with the support of Adolf Hitler, at the controversial Berlin Olympics as a means to promote Nazi ideology.[1

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