MarkMiller

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Bingo! Malicious YouTube Hoaksters Exposed

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Bingo! Malicious YouTube Hoaksters Exposed : NO QUARTER
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By SluggoJDcloseAuthor: SluggoJD Name: Sluggo JD
Email: sluggojd@yahoo.com
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about: See Authors Posts (2) on May 4, 2008 at 10:31 PM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Mickey Kantor, The War Room

The Internet was ablaze with You Tube videos early Friday (5/1/08) showing footage from The War Room, Part 9, a documentary about Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign, that supposedly depicted Clinton aide Mickey Kantor referring to folks in Indiana as “shit.” More outrageous versions were spawned later that also claimed that Kantor called people “white nig**rs.”

None of it was true. By late Friday, it had been completely debunked, and Mickey Kantor vowed to take legal action against the culprits. (For background, check out D. Cupples’ earlier story here.)

Based on my research, I recommend that Kantor’s legal team immediately contact Jamal Brown of Venice, CA (Brown owns a small business that specializes in videos); Dietrich Cusseaux of Spring, TX; JedReport.com out of Las Vegas; Markos Moulitsas, owner of Daily Kos; and the Barack Obama campaign.

CRITICAL SIDE NOTE: Six hours ago, Jamal Brown posted another YouTube video: “Hillary Clinton is trying to get Barack Obama killed!.” (WE PLAN to address this abhorrent video in a separate story.)

The original hoax video was posted around 3PM on Thursday by BingoFrogger at You Tube, who created that You Tube account that day. Shortly afterwards, the video was spread to Daily Kos under a new screenname, Slow Poke.

I believe that Slow Poke is BingoFrogger - just think about the old video game Frogger, where the frog keeps getting hit by cars because it is a “slow poke,” and it makes sense…Markos at Daily Kos could provide a valuable service to the reality-based community by releasing Slow Poke’s IP information to the Kantor legal team. Meanwhile, further examination of the BingoFrogger account reveals startling web-like connections between various other You Tube accounts:

BingoFrogger had 10 subscribers shortly after being created. Four of them (reckkent, smwebb0704, astroseer, and lavlove) only subscribe to BingoFrogger, and could be sock puppets for other actions. Four subscribers appear to be unimportant in the scheme of things. Ladybchi is of interest, because “she” only subscribes to BingoFrogger, barackobama.com, and some other account, and lists barackobama.com as a friend.

But it is the last subscriber who opens a window into the spiderweb-like connections I have found, and should be checked out by people with skills greater than my own. Dcusseaux, who appears to be Dietrich Cusseaux of Texas, based on pro-Obama writings online and The Audacity of Hope listed as one of his two favorite books, subscribes to only three You Tube accounts - BingoFrogger, JedReport, and edbdpt1, and lists one friend - style6919.

We’re already familiar with BingoFrogger. JedReport is a strong anti-Hillary/pro-Obama force online who happens to be friends with another notorious poster of videos, Politikewl, who reposted BingoFrogger’s video around 2 AM Friday morning. Edbdpt1 is certainly not involved with what happened, but is very important to this story because he/she posted the War Room series of documentary clips at You Tube, and Part 9 was used to create the hoax. It’s certainly fascinating that Dcusseaux, an Obama supporter, would subscribe to edbdpt1.

But it’s even more fascinating that Dcusseaux’s only You Tube friend, style6919, a strong Obama supporter with a “calling card” in his profile which we’ll take a look at momentarily, lists The War Room, Part 9 as one of his favorite videos - indeed, a look at his favorites clearly shows that this is the only video among his 72 favorites that is pro-Clinton…well at least it used to be, until BingoFrogger posted the original hoax video.

As I mentioned before, he left his calling card - wholesaleleatherstore.com/barack.html, which has many pro-Obama videos. A WHOIS reveals the owner as J Miles B Productions, of Venice, CA, and by googling on this, we come up with Jamal Boone of Venice, President of J Miles B (Jamal Miles Boone) Productions, which specializes in the production of “movies music and videos.”

No doubt, Jamal Boone has the skills to produce BingoFrogger’s video. He subscribes to BingoFrogger, he lists The War Room, Part 9 as one of his favorite videos even though he is anti-Hillary and pro-Obama…and he only subscribes to one thing at You Tube - barackobama.com. Billows of smoke usually mean a fire is somewhere close. I sincerely hope that Mickey Kantor sends a team of firemen to take a good look at them.

Sincerely,
John Dean
SluggoJD

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Comment:

They can run....but they cannot hide!

DRS112

Is it just me....or does this article never say why it isn't true other than because the auther says so?

Not saying that what the frogger guy posted is true...but it will take more than joe schmo there saying it just isn't so to make his claim valid.

MarkMiller

That is correct it does not mention why it is not true......then again that's not what the article is about, but if you wish to believe what has been completely debunked......that's certainly is your choice.

DRS112

This is the first I've heard of it...so I can't say that I believe either way....but how has it been completely debunked other than because the author(and now you) say so?

MarkMiller

You haven't heard any of this? Oh, you were on the the rapids.

It has been debunked, by the director of the film the video was taken from and from many other sources....google Youtube Clinton Campaign Hoax.

The_Heretic

And now all we need is to expose Hillary's blatant denials about her quiet support for the worst parts of NAFTA, that she still is pro-war, wants to cause still more dumb wars, that she has a long sordid history of lying about her role in teh 90's and that she in fact has only seven years experience [less than Obama] most of which was supporting the extremist anti-American right wing on foreign and economic policies.

Once that's done things will be even.

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Richterscale

You mean like this?

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Rollerball

Sluggo JD needs to get a life. His logical connections and "proof" made me laugh.

I am not commenting on the video at all, only the amount of pseudo-detective work in this article trying to track down the untrackable.

Yeah all those connections he mentioned could be true, but they prove absolutely nothing. To try to trace or prove something using internet screen names, who's whose friends, when they created the account, when they posted and all that is only fluff. You need actually IP numbers if you want to make credible connections between these videos and posters, and even then you don't know who are the sock puppets and who's for real.

HarperLee

Before noon Friday, HuffPo's had an article up by Sam Stein entitled Clinton Adviser Claims Indiana Slur Video is Conspiracy. What scared me was the blurb directing readers to Stein's article started
with Clinton Aide Exonerated ... If you read Stein's story, you see that Kantor is exonerated simply because he says it didn't happen. (If only Bill Clinton could have had such a liberal standard of proof in the Lewinsky matter.) Kantor's defense,
believed and embraced in a nanosecond by the MSM, is that the audio from the original footage in The War Room is virtually inaudible. Hello! Did anyone see Primary Colors?
Nothing is virtually inaudible.

Clinton Adviser Claims Indiana Slur Video Is Conspiracy - Politics on The Huffington Post

I don't believe I have read anywhere that Kantor denies saying "those people are shit" -- although, after listening to the video from The War Room (as opposed to the allegedly doctored
video), it is possible he is saying "those people are shittin'."

This is the Emperor's New Clothes, Part Deux. The Clinton machine got the allegedly doctored YouTube down in less than an hour. However, it appears that they were unable to get The War Room, pt. 9 removed.

I have yet to see an expert in audio analysis address the soundtrack from The War Room. Frankly, when Hillary supporters clogged
the blogosphere with their mantra that Kantor was saying something like "won't it be great to be in the White House" rather than "don't you feel sorry for those white ******s," I just gave up. No thinking
person would believe that Kantor would lower his voice to say, "Wouldn't it be great to be in the White House right now?"

Kantor's uncomplimentary remarks about Hoosiers
are mentioned (inconclusively) in a 1993 WaPo
review of The War Room.

Hillary supporters in the blogosphere are certain
that Obama's campaign put the allegedly doctored
YouTube out there to play the race card. Bonfire of the Vanities, Part Deux -- all I
learned from this is don't fucking mess with the
Clinton machine.

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HarperLee

This thread is going in several directions, but I understand that on the This Week Clinton/Stephanopolous lovefest yesterday,
Hillary said that she and George were the only ones in the Clinton White who did not support NAFTA -- and George neither agreed or disagreed with her. (I guess she was sleep-deprived when
she wrote glowingly about NAFTA in her autobiography.)

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