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Old 07-16-2008, 11:18 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I seem to remember asking if killing the kid on the spot was preferable, are you saying it is? That's all I'm asking...
I would have, point blank, preferebly with .308 or .45
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:18 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I would have, point blank, preferebly with .308 or .45
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:43 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I see...so the fact the kid killed a medic makes no difference, we'll just let that little bit go then.
I don't think you or I know if he is guilty or not. But whats wrong with giving him a fair trial?? If he would have been killed on the spot it would have made things simple but he wasn't. Just because some witness said he did it doesn't make it so. I guess it depends on who the witness was and circumstances around it. Look at all the people that were arrested in Iraq and later released. A fair trial doesn't seem to be something that should be argued. Normally we look at child conscripts as a terrible act. The rules seem to change to justify our government doing as they please which as of late is nothing but lawlessness on our part.
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If CSIS kidnapped a US citizen, held him in a foreign prison, subjected him to torture, did not allow him to return to the US to face charges even though the US is part of the coalition forces in Afghanistan...

...I don't know man, I don't think it'd go over so well. I hope it wouldn't, anyway.
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That it insults Canada is beside the point, but the case shows you just how far Harper's gov't will go to pander to the Bush administration. The States has quite a cloud over it with human rights abuses, making such pandering more unforgivable.

BTW, I'm afraid I confused the issue when I didn't clarify that he wasn't charged here. Apologies.

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Anyone know where BillCosby's at?
He said he wouldn't be able to post for a long time
He didn't say why and it is quite worrisome to me....it just doesn't sound good.
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He didn't say why and it is quite worrisome to me....it just doesn't sound good.
No, it doesn't, and there's no email addy

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Ok here's the point I entirely failed to make. The only witness was another grunt engaged in putting down the threat. He may be biased... but still, he was there and his life was in danger as well. I would have put 2 holes in that kid's chest and one more in his fucking head to be sure. That way no trial, no bullshit, at the end of the day he was bearing arms against US forces and he should have died on the spot. This would not be an issue had that happened. I just want to hear from you Michele, that it was wrong for him to be bearing arms against those forces in the first place. Busco should not be torturing people! I have said that, but what are the troops in field supposed to do? I will not lay down and die because a Canadian national punk is shooting at me, period... Can we agree that he was wrong in the first place?
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I'm going to settle this, (Just call me Solomon).


The problem comes from the illegal activities of our gov't. the kid is going to do what he did. nothing short of common sense will solve that. How we react to that action is of all importance. we can treat him as bona fide enemy combatant and put him in a POW camp. Abu Grahib comes to ind. do we want that again?

Or we can treat him as a criminal; which he is. But as such he has rights in our legal system. If we had left him to Sharia law, he would have been beheaded or given a caddilac, whatever they do. But since he is in OUR legal sytem, he has to have all the r4ights of that system.

this admin has broken more laws than usama bin laden. and we tolerate it because we're scared! well fuck that!!
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:53 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Ok here's the point I entirely failed to make. The only witness was another grunt engaged in putting down the threat. He may be biased... but still, he was there and his life was in danger as well. I would have put 2 holes in that kid's chest and one more in his fucking head to be sure. That way no trial, no bullshit, at the end of the day he was bearing arms against US forces and he should have died on the spot. This would not be an issue had that happened. I just want to hear from you Michele, that it was wrong for him to be bearing arms against those forces in the first place. Busco should not be torturing people! I have said that, but what are the troops in field supposed to do? I will not lay down and die because a Canadian national punk is shooting at me, period... Can we agree that he was wrong in the first place?
Being in Afghanistan, Canadians would have been his targets as well.

What do you think I'm going to say? Let any mujahideen splatter Westerners as they see fit?

Back I go to what I see as the crux of the issue: being a Canadian citizen in Afghanistan where Canadian troops are fighting, Khadr should have been shipped to Canada, where he would have been interrogated, charged, and brought to trial.

Hmm maybe I should delete this, K's post is far better & my record is skipping
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