Ca Sup Ct Oks Gay Marriage - Page 2

Cookie · 05-15-2008, 11:29 AM

Good for them. If two people love one another enough to commit by marriage, more power to them. I've always been a fan of love, wherever and with whomever we can find it.

Cookie · 05-15-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

Thank you for asking that important question.

The issue before the courts and the people is not whether to allow marriage to be redefined or to allow even "Other" groups to be recognized to wed. The issue is can same sex partners like my self and my partner of 20 years who have lived in home we made in the middle of average America be kept from marrying.

The decision to overturn Ca. ban is about that ban and that situation and does not effect any other Illegal activity. Multiple Marriage is Illegal and you can go to jail for it. Gay marriage NEVER WAS illegal. It was just not recognised. Not an illegal activity, and no other difference other than same sex. Equal protection. This is my opinion and not the courts....but it is their decision and I am proud of the work of all gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered Lawyers and activists that made it happen.

This ruling paves the way to overturning DOMA.

will you and your spouse marry formally now? (I hope I asked this in the right way)

anhailla · 05-15-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie

Good for them. If two people love one another enough to commit by marriage, more power to them. I've always been a fan of love, wherever and with whomever we can find it.

..nice post

MarkMiller · 05-15-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie

will you and your spouse marry formally now? (I hope I asked this in the right way)

Not right away. We had made plans to do it years ago anyway but since it wasn't recognized didn't see a need. Now 15 years later I can wait and let everyone one else go first I don't need national attention at a private moment like that and for a while at least it will be difficult to do very privately.

MarkMiller · 05-15-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by guest1234567

But why is multiple marriage a crime? It is strictly because of Christian "values" that were forced upon everyone. And let's not be coy, sodomy laws in many states made gay marriage a crime for a long, long time. Thankfully, we are getting past this, but I do think that there is absolutely no reason to classify multi-marriage as a crime.

No...I disagree. There are more humane rights values at stake by not forcing a minor to do anything against their will. Multiple marriages result in many forms of abuse in children.

guest1234567 · 05-15-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

No...I disagree. There are more humane rights values at stake by not forcing a minor to do anything against their will. Multiple marriages result in many forms of abuse in children.

But that I think this makes my point. If the system of marriage was formalized, then these children would not be living on hidden compounds. They could go to school with the rest of the kids in a normal neighborhood. And of course, I specifically mentioned that the kids would be protected from sex abuse and marriages to minors.

guest1234567 · 05-15-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

Not right away. We had made plans to do it years ago anyway but since it wasn't recognized didn't see a need. Now 15 years later I can wait and let everyone one else go first I don't need national attention at a private moment like that and for a while at least it will be difficult to do very privately.

And BTW Z, I am very glad you will have the opportunity to marry. Despite the other topic I'm blathering about, I still wish you and yours the best of futures.

MarkMiller · 05-15-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by guest1234567

And BTW Z, I am very glad you will have the opportunity to marry. Despite the other topic I'm blathering about, I still wish you and yours the best of futures.

Oh...I didn't really doubt it. I was taking advantage of you asking the questions to discuss the issues and try to answer any that I thought I could.

MarkMiller · 05-15-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by guest1234567

But that I think this makes my point. If the system of marriage was formalized, then these children would not be living on hidden compounds. They could go to school with the rest of the kids in a normal neighborhood. And of course, I specifically mentioned that the kids would be protected from sex abuse and marriages to minors.

Living openly doesn't stop weddings between an adult male and several undergaged females. Which has been a large part of current investigations.

Plus I guess the bigger argument would be....why several Wives? It subjigates the female and only the female.

guest1234567 · 05-15-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

Living openly doesn't stop weddings between an adult male and several undergaged females. Which has been a large part of current investigations.

Indeed, but they were all living in seclusion. But they have no choice either. They must live in secret. The children were not being protected by the law or neighbors that were not part of the cult.

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Plus I guess the bigger argument would be....why several Wives. It subjugates the female and only the female.

You've been on HBO boards, maybe you've been to the Big Love boards. There were many people who joined up to talk about their own poly-relationships. There are people who feel they have enough love for more than one person, and that they in turn need more love than one person can provide.

It's definitely not for me, but who am I to say who can't marry.

As long as they live within the rules of civilized society. And these rules should also be doing more to protect the battered wives and children in mono-relationships too.

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