BillCosby

ME??????... dirty tricks... You gotta be kidding here............

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anhailla

No, I would not want to be reliant on TV news...we are in absolute agreement.


I am not convinced that the NYT and the Washington Posts as well as numerous other media outlets(Air America...NPR) have been complicit at all.

I doubt these kind of options exist for the people of Tehran.

and let me add this is no criticism of the Iranian people, far from it.

I just get a little nervous when liberals start shouting that "our press" is no better, and in turn... asserting that Americans don't have any more access to information (btw, access allows sources to be checked) than Iranians

it just simply isn't true.

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jowey

Iran-Contra....

All part of the game, is it "true", who knows. Our press will ignore it as propaganda, reinforcing Iran's cause and gaining more recruits. Russia, China and Korea will embrace the message as fact of our activities, representative of our policies and use it to escalate their own initiatives to counter what they perceive ours to be.

Nothing like fear to generate profits and acquire control.

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ImusWallower

this is the point i was making from the other side. we are in full agreement

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Richterscale

I'm guessing you must be talking about some other liberal, since at no time have I made anything even close to that statement.

And you are right. Access DOES allow sources to be checked. Which goes to my point of complicity of our networks. Those 'military experts', who shoveled pro-war propaganda into our brains 24/7, should have been carefully vetted before they were allowed on the air. They would have been shown to be deep in the pockets of the war industry. But the networks either never bothered to ask, or did ask, and decided to use them anyway.

Either way you look at it, their decisions to toss out journalism 101, is complicity. They aided and abetted.

Judith Miller's war cheer leading and the near deafening silence over the "Downing Street Minutes' are two other prime examples.

And just to mention one more example, the admission by the NYT that they held on to the story of illegal domestic spying until after the 2004 election, at the request of the White House, and then lying about it. If this is not a perfect example of complicity, I don't know what is.

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BillCosby

Every time bush, cheney rice or any of the rest of them open their mouth this should be shoved in their face..............

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anhailla

awesome!

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JeffinCO

Obviously I'm appalled and saddened by the idea of one of my country's law enforcement agencies providing support for operations aimed at innocent civilians.

On one hand I say to myself "Nah,. They couldnt be that short-sighted and STUPID not to realize the irony of fighting terrorism by terrorizing people."

...and then I think about Gitmo.
....and the war in Iraq.

I think about Osama BinLaden still issuing messages 6 YEARS after people were leaping from 80 stories to escape burning to death.

I think about George HW Bush watching it unfold on TV in a comfy chair with Osama BinLaden's brother.
...and all of the subsequent PROFIT that that day has bestowed upon the people in that room.

Irony? ...perhaps.

Made up stories from an Arab country meant to sway opinion? (Of course, thats the easy spin that lazy fat pasty gold microphone dildoes can use.)

Al-jezeera. pffft. Like they will report any facts. (yes we need to consider sources, but it's not exactly like we're getting good, neutral free-press style information out of the middle east from foxnews.)

I think we need to be open to all possibilities, trust no-one, and not turn a blind eye to the ugly fact that some bad things are being done around the world in our name.

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BillCosby

Al jazeer is a fine source...............

COntrary to how some wish to portray it........ Often times I get info from them.... It is simple enough to verify............. What the times of XYZ will put on page 29 they will have on page one so you can actually be aware of it........

Then I will post about the ap wire story so as to avoid the prejudice......

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Iran Busts CIA-Backed Terror Group

The Iranian Intelligence Ministry busted a CIA-backed terror group that was planning to bomb scientific, educational, and religious centers, and carry out assassinations, according to a report in the Tehran Times. The arrests come weeks after Ret. Gen. Thomas McInerney urged the U.S. to carry out terror bombings in Iran.

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