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Old 06-11-2008, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Putin eyes new European order

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AFP: Russia's Medvedev eyes new European order
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MOSCOW (AFP) — Russian President Dmitry Medvedev(Putin) on Wednesday made a new demand for a sweeping overhaul of European security, saying NATO alone could not handle the continent's post-Cold War challenges.

In a keynote speech at a media forum, he vowed to make Russia more free and open, and said that despite basic differences with the United States he looked forward to constructive dialogue with the next US administration.

"Is the Atlantic alliance sufficient to solve all of the problems of security in old Europe? In my opinion the answer is no," Medvedev(Putin) told journalists at the Russian Media Congress in Moscow.

"The solution would be to prepare an all-encompassing European agreement in which all the states of Europe took part.... All the other institutions are based on divisive principles," he said.

The Kremlin has repeatedly complained that NATO is moving to dominate European security, usurping the power of the United Nations and leaving Moscow out in the cold by planning expansion to Russia's borders.

In his first major foreign policy speech since succeeding Vladimir Putin, Medvedev last week called for a European conference to discuss a new treaty. But the call, made on a trip to Berlin, has received a muted response.

Getting European allies on board to discuss a broad new treaty might be difficult, analysts said.

The idea that NATO should disappear as a force in Europe "is not much of a basis for a conference," independent military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer said earlier.

The treaty proposal is little more than a reworking of Soviet-era proposals that had a "very weak impact on security in Europe," said Yevgeny Volk, head of the Moscow office of the US Heritage Foundation.

To reach an agreement, Russia would have to overcome what Medvedev described as "radically different" US points of view on key security issues in Europe.

In particular, Medvedev(Putin) named US plans to extend a missile shield into the Czech Republic and Poland, the enlargement of NATO, and the Cold-War era Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty.

But the Kremlin chief said he had "guarded optimism" about ties with whoever comes to power in the United States in a November presidential election.

"We will work with whatever US administration appears, if only because our country's responsibility in maintaining world order, peace and stability on the planet is colossal."

"We are counting on a constructive and friendly dialogue with whatever administration comes to power," he said.

In an apparent bid to distance himself from the authoritarian trends seen in Russia in recent years Medvedev also vowed to build a freer society.

"Our immutable course will be the creation of a free and responsible society, the defence of human rights, freedom of the press and of speech and, of course, supremacy of the law," he said.

In recent weeks Medvedev has struck down a restrictive media law and the country's top court has cancelled a probe into a media rights group, but analysts say this barely dents Putin's legacy of restricting free speech.

Medvedev(Putin) also vowed to "use all means available" to fight racism and xenophobia.

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Old 06-11-2008, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In this thread, I get Russian porn banners. On the China thread, I got Chinese porn banners. I guess technically it isn't porn, but it is only one milli-step away and could be full-fledged porn if porn was better accepted. I'm thinking something along the lines of a newspaper headline reading 'Pornography Website Funds Billion Dollar Fusion Project'. It is a lot of porn, but I think the world can coalesce behind the cause of scientific advancement.
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Russia and China seem to be gaining the advantage over the Anglo-American-Israeli axis. The War on Terrorism has backfired and has not worked out as planned.

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Old 06-11-2008, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've certainly never heard the word 'protracted'.

Another headline: "Pornography Website Feeds Famished, Heals Diseased". In the most heart-warming story of the century, one gem of a website offers a 'special' service. On this site, for every pornography dollar you spend, one penny is donated to feeding the starving and curing the plagued. Scientists predict, within 50 years of pornography philanthropy, global poverty will be eliminated.
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In this thread, I get Russian porn banners. On the China thread, I got Chinese porn banners. I guess technically it isn't porn, but it is only one milli-step away and could be full-fledged porn if porn was better accepted. I'm thinking something along the lines of a newspaper headline reading 'Pornography Website Funds Billion Dollar Fusion Project'. It is a lot of porn, but I think the world can coalesce behind the cause of scientific advancement.
I would crack up if next year both China and Russia announce their energy independence having powered their countries with the Polywell Fusion reactor....
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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We've lost the battle for Southwestern Asian resources. On to Africa!

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We've lost the battle for Southwestern Asian resources. On to Africa!
We need a black president for that.
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We've added some color or shade, but the objective is still the same.
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We need a black president for that.
Wouldn't that be convenient?

United States Africa Command - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The United States Africa Command (USAFRICOM or AFRICOM) is a new Unified Combatant Command of the United States Department of Defense, to be responsible for U.S. military operations in and military relations with 53 African nations - an area of responsibility covering all of Africa except Egypt. Africa Command was established October 1, 2007 as a temporary sub-unified command of U.S. European Command, but will be fully autonomous and operational by September 30, 2008.

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Have you any idea how many Chinese are in Africa building roads, bridges, etc? A lot!

I wonder how many years China colonized Africa?

I'm repeating myself, but do you think China or Russia, or anyone who we're in competition for resources in Africa will have black presidents?

You can make-up this shit. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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