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Old 06-28-2008, 02:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I canīt believe they made such ugly guns in those days. I mean, look at that handle. Look at those fancy inlays. No wonder Luis XVI wore a wig. Plain disgusting.
A lot of weapons of that error where made exclusively for ornamental purposes. I'm sure that one was.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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A car is not a handgun.

And if a car is similar to a gun, then why doesn't the NRA push for at least the equal amount of regulation, not less then that of a car?
They leave that to MADD.

Oh, I am so not going there. Shut up magi, shut up magi. I'll tell you some day about what a car can accomplish with a f*cking drunk at the wheel.

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Old 06-28-2008, 05:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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They leave that to MADD.

Oh, I am so not going there. Shut up magi, shut up magi. I'll tell you some day about what a car can accomplish with a f*cking drunk at the wheel.

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More people die in cars than by guns. More people are horribly wounded by cars than guns. Drunk or sober. But as Dis said, the car's purpose isn't to kill and maim. that is the purpose of a gun. to kill. it is its only purpose. animals or humans it makes no difference.

that said, I don't really have a problem with the ruling. It has been the de facto standing for ever.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:25 PM   #34 (permalink)
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More people die in cars than by guns. More people are horribly wounded by cars than guns. Drunk or sober. But as Dis said, the car's purpose isn't to kill and maim. that is the purpose of a gun. to kill. it is its only purpose. animals or humans it makes no difference.

that said, I don't really have a problem with the ruling. It has been the de facto standing for ever.
I gotta disagree with that, the AK47 is the most legendary killing instrument ever devised. The body count from cars pales in the face of that...
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I gotta disagree with that, the AK47 is the most legendary killing instrument ever devised. The body count from cars pales in the face of that...
Ok I meant in the US. worldwide is a whole different kettle of fish.
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:35 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I agree with the ruling. D.C has to figure out a way to reduce their gun violence with out declaring that just because your happen to live inside the boarder of their city a right that everyone else has doesn't exist for you.

My point was that the argument that cars and guns are similar because of the equal or increased amount of deaths caused by them makes it so, is flawed.

If cancer and diabetes caused the same deaths, or one more then another it doesn't make them similar. Even though both are diseases. Doctors use entirely different methods to reduce deaths in both. Yes sometimes a single method (early detection i.e) work for both. But to treat them equally because the resulting tragedy of both is similar, or worse is not the deciding factor on how they are treated.

It's talk like that from NRA or gun advocates that gets us no where. The same is true of left wing nuts who shrill at the site of any weapon that isn't a bow and arrow. Like the the waste of time in Massachusetts where I live on an assault rifle ban. By the time all the hysterics were over, no one asked: "how many people would it save"?. The best guess was one person every 13 years, since that was the last time anyone could confirm some one being killed by one (an assault rifle). All that effort and emotion wasted on a particular item that hardly anyone owns, uses in a crime, or even gets killed by at some point. All because they look scary to some liberal nutcase.
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In the hands of a skilled marksman, a gun can be used to wound, not necessarily kill.

Many gunshot wounds do not kill.
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16th century.
Hey, I saw one of those! Yeah, the Predator took one off Raphael in 1715!
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There were hand guns that operated off flint just like the rifles. The reason there is less violence in other countries is because the punishments are more severe and there are fewer appeals tying up their court systems.
Plus, on average, the population of Idaho.
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In the hands of a skilled marksman, a gun can be used to wound, not necessarily kill.

Many gunshot wounds do not kill.
Screw that. In the heat of the moment when the shit really hits the fan its much wiser to rely less on your marksmanship and more on the adage "Two to the body, one to the head".

If you are in a situation that requires firing a weapon at another human being, then that situation has devolved into the status where that human being is now a mortal threat and should be removed absolutely.
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