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Old 11-11-2007, 09:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Hillary along with all other dems should have been there to vote. This was not some minor issue that could be shrugged off as "difficult to fit into my campaign schedule." This was a deliberate act not to go on the record. They all have the financial ability to fly to DC for the vote and then get back out shaking hands and kissing babies. Shame on them all. This is truly representative of what this country has come to...politics before principle. It cannot be explained away. If the Dems allow the Republicans to win this election it will be over issues like this, that can be used to show the "weakness of character" that the Repubs used in the past. How is it possible that the Dems have not learned yet?
I agree they should have showed up.

Imagine, if for nothing else a few republicans voted against confirmation, just to make the vote close enough that 4 votes would have made a difference.

I have no problem holding this against ALL of them who didn't show, but I'll have a big problem if some who didn't show get a pass and the media makes a bit thing out of only some not showing.

On the other hand, it didn't seem to hurt Obama or help Hillary when she showed up to vote and he didn't on another issue recently.

Maybe this means more to us than it does to the general public. Which is also sad.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree they should have showed up.

Imagine, if for nothing else a few republicans voted against confirmation, just to make the vote close enough that 4 votes would have made a difference.

I have no problem holding this against ALL of them who didn't show, but I'll have a big problem if some who didn't show get a pass and the media makes a bit thing out of only some not showing.

On the other hand, it didn't seem to hurt Obama or help Hillary when she showed up to vote and he didn't on another issue recently.

Maybe this means more to us than it does to the general public. Which is also sad.
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I agree, everyone should be held accountable, but if you're running for the office of the President of the United States and a vote comes up on the Attorney General, how do you simply "pass" and expect to retain credibility? Dems are trying to construct an image of have "balls" and avoiding a stand on the AG appointment does nothing to help that image. It just seems to me that they never learn. You're my generation, remember the admonition we were taught as young men..."the worst decision you can make is to make no decision at all." Well, they all made "no decision." They couldn't have picked a worse choice. Anyone of the four of them will have to go some to get my vote for any other reason other than they wouldn't be as bad a Giuliani. Sad.
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I agree that making no decision at all is the worst possible thing a leader can do. It should be held against all of them equally in the primaries, but it will be held the most against the nominee. I think they all should have known better.
They still have a job to do as senators.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree that making no decision at all is the worst possible thing a leader can do. It should be held against all of them equally in the primaries, but it will be held the most against the nominee. I think they all should have known better.
They still have a job to do as senators.
I agree they should have shown up and voted.

Aside from opening this question, they certainly left themselves open for republican sabotage.

If the republicans had "arranged" for this man to pass by less than four votes, I think all four of these people would be history as candidates.

I would not have left that door open.
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That rules out all but John Edwards.


By the way y'all....

I know there's a few of us here so....


Happy Veteran's Day.



Let us bring our veterans home, shall we?
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Happy Veteran's Day.
And to you.
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I agree that making no decision at all is the worst possible thing a leader can do. It should be held against all of them equally in the primaries, but it will be held the most against the nominee. I think they all should have known better.
They still have a job to do as senators.
Yes and no.

They made a decision to not show up. I think that was an error on their part no so much because their showing up would have changed anything, but it would have looked better.

It also gave the republicans my previously mentioned opportunity to really make them pay for not showing up.

Why is it, I have to ask, that with all of today's technology, they can't vote from wherever they are?
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