Democratic Candidates are No-Shows for Mukasey Vote

bigbrowndog · 11-09-2007, 10:58 AM

Democratic Candidates are No-Shows for Mukasey Vote
Written by Chris Floyd
Friday, 09 November 2007

Here are a few profiles in courage for you.

On the nomination of Michael Mukasey to be Attorney General
of the United States:

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY: did not vote.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill: did not vote.
Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn: did not vote.
Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del: did not vote.

There you have it. The only four Democratic senators who did not vote
on the nomination of Mukasey – and the legitimization of torture and
presidential tyranny it represents – were the four Democratic
senators seeking the presidency.

Draw your own conclusions on the implications of these absences, and what they
portend for the possibilities of genuine reform should any of these worthy paladins
win the White House.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php...347&Itemid=135

EvilMonkey · 11-09-2007, 11:21 AM

What a great example they set not only to get out and vote but to totally side step an important issues. What a shame. None of these candidates will be taken serious if they have anything to say about Mukasey one way or the other, nor should they be.

jdanton · 11-09-2007, 11:35 AM

I have mixed feelings. Would there vote have changed the outcome? I'm sure they knew what the whip count was.

On the other hand, if I were a republican, knowing what the whip count was, I might have changed my vote to make it close enough that their votes would have mattered.

wayside · 11-09-2007, 11:35 AM

EvilMonkey · 11-09-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jdanton

I have mixed feelings. Would there vote have changed the outcome? I'm sure they knew what the whip count was.

On the other hand, if I were a republican, knowing what the whip count was, I might have changed my vote to make it close enough that their votes would have mattered.

This was an opportunity to make a statement though, now they've lost any credibility to speak on him, it's the sort of thing that could potentially come back on them down the road. This is really a dissapointment, regardless of my feelings on the candidates here I was hoping whoever our nominee is (which will definitely be one of these) would give us a little better representation. Republicans are gonna have a hay day with this you know.

VKMHVM2 · 11-09-2007, 12:54 PM

They were too afraid of facing the base after recording the YAY votes that they each wanted to give.

EvilMonkey · 11-09-2007, 01:28 PM

Sad but probably true, that's one of the reasons Hillary's opponents use it against her, it's an easy cop out to say you didn't vote. One that I won't buy though.

VKMHVM2 · 11-09-2007, 01:32 PM

It gets even worse. They're openly defending the Democratic leadership's position to block the impeachment of Cheney. It's sad how far Democratic Party has fallen.

EvilMonkey · 11-09-2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

It gets even worse. They're openly defending the Democratic leadership's position to block the impeachment of Cheney. It's sad how far Democratic Party has fallen.

Well, not that I am opposed to impeachment (of either him or Bush) but I think the damage is already done. At this point it seems the best we can hope for is their term to expire and move on, barring a coup d'état that is.

Veronica · 11-09-2007, 01:49 PM

Their decision not to vote is disgusting. Riding the fence is not leadership.
They need to pick a side regardless if it was not going to change the outcome.
They are suppose to have influence over Congress. I am sure if they were voting en masse against him, other demo's would have joined in. They absolutely could have changed the vote. Not voting is a tacit yes vote.

11-09-2007, 10:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
bigbrowndog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 853 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Democratic Candidates are No-Shows for Mukasey Vote Democratic Candidates are No-Shows for Mukasey Vote Written by Chris Floyd Friday, 09 November 2007 Here are a few profiles in courage for you. On the nomination of Michael Mukasey to be Attorney General of the United States: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY: did not vote. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill: did not vote. Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn: did not vote. Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del: did not vote. There you have it. The only four Democratic senators who did not vote on the nomination of Mukasey – and the legitimization of torture and presidential tyranny it represents – were the four Democratic senators seeking the presidency. Draw your own conclusions on the implications of these absences, and what they portend for the possibilities of genuine reform should any of these worthy paladins win the White House. http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php...347&Itemid=135
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11-09-2007, 11:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
EvilMonkey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,124 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 68 Thanked 422 Times in 257 Posts	What a great example they set not only to get out and vote but to totally side step an important issues. What a shame. None of these candidates will be taken serious if they have anything to say about Mukasey one way or the other, nor should they be.
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11-09-2007, 11:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
jdanton Puddy Tat Watch Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,806 My Mood: Thanks: 38 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts	I have mixed feelings. Would there vote have changed the outcome? I'm sure they knew what the whip count was. On the other hand, if I were a republican, knowing what the whip count was, I might have changed my vote to make it close enough that their votes would have mattered. __________________ Author: Memoirs of a Sleepless Mind, a book you CAN judge by its cover.
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wayside Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Top Hat Lounge Posts: 1,290 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
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11-09-2007, 12:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
VKMHVM2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,799 My Mood: Thanks: 86 Thanked 62 Times in 49 Posts	They were too afraid of facing the base after recording the YAY votes that they each wanted to give. __________________ It's All Here! Dr. Albert Pastore: An Independent Investigation of 9-11 and the War on Terrorism
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11-09-2007, 01:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
EvilMonkey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,124 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 68 Thanked 422 Times in 257 Posts	Sad but probably true, that's one of the reasons Hillary's opponents use it against her, it's an easy cop out to say you didn't vote. One that I won't buy though.
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11-09-2007, 01:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
VKMHVM2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,799 My Mood: Thanks: 86 Thanked 62 Times in 49 Posts	It gets even worse. They're openly defending the Democratic leadership's position to block the impeachment of Cheney. It's sad how far Democratic Party has fallen. __________________ It's All Here! Dr. Albert Pastore: An Independent Investigation of 9-11 and the War on Terrorism
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11-09-2007, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Veronica Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,184 My Mood: Thanks: 184 Thanked 265 Times in 136 Posts	Their decision not to vote is disgusting. Riding the fence is not leadership. They need to pick a side regardless if it was not going to change the outcome. They are suppose to have influence over Congress. I am sure if they were voting en masse against him, other demo's would have joined in. They absolutely could have changed the vote. Not voting is a tacit yes vote.
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