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bush orders death for army private...
WASHINGTON - President Bush on Monday approved the execution of an Army private, the first time in over a half-century that a president has affirmed a death sentence for a member of the U.S. military.
With his signature from the Oval Office, Bush said yes to the military's request to execute Ronald A. Gray, the White House confirmed. Gray had had been convicted in connection with a spree of four murders and eight rapes in the Fayetteville, N.C., area over eight months in the late 1980s while stationed at Fort Bragg. "While approving a sentence of death for a member of our armed services is a serious and difficult decision for a commander in chief, the president believes the facts of this case leave no doubt that the sentence is just and warranted," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. In the military courts, "Private Gray was convicted of committing brutal crimes, including two murders, an attempted murder and three rapes. The victims included a civilian and two members of the Army. ... The president's thoughts and prayers are with the victims of these heinous crimes and their families and all others affected." Unlike in the civilian courts, a member of the U.S. armed forces cannot be executed until the president approves the death sentence. Gray has been on death row at the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., since April 1988. Members of the U.S. military have been executed throughout history, but just 10 have been executed by presidential approval since 1951 when the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the military's modern-day legal system, was enacted into law. President Kennedy was the last president to stare down this life-or-death decision. On Feb. 12, 1962, Kennedy commuted the death sentence of Jimmie Henderson, a Navy seaman, to confinement for life. President Eisenhower was the last president to approve a military execution. In 1957, he approved the execution of John Bennett, an Army private convicted of raping and attempting to kill an 11-year-old Austrian girl. He was hanged in 1961. The death penalty was outlawed between 1972 and 1984, when President Reagan reinstated it. Gray was held responsible for the crimes committed between April 1986 and January 1987 in both the civilian and military justice systems. In civilian courts in North Carolina, Gray pleaded guilty to two murders and five rapes and was sentenced to three consecutive and five concurrent life terms. He then was tried by general court-martial at the Army's Fort Bragg. In April 1988, the court-martial convicted Gray of two murders, an attempted murder and three rapes. He was unanimously sentenced to death. The court-martial panel convicted Gray of: _Raping and killing Army Pvt. Laura Lee Vickery-Clay of Fayetteville on Dec. 15, 1986. She was shot four times with a .22-caliber pistol that Gray confessed to stealing. She suffered blunt force trauma over much of her body. _Raping and killing Kimberly Ann Ruggles, a civilian cab driver in Fayetteville. She was bound, gagged, stabbed repeatedly, and had bruises and lacerations on her face. Her body was found on the base. _Raping, robbing and attempting to kill Army Pvt. Mary Ann Lang Nameth in her barracks at Fort Bragg on Jan. 3, 1987. She testified against Gray during the court-martial and identified him as her assailant. Gray raped her and stabbed her several times in the neck and side. Nameth suffered a laceration of the trachea and a collapsed or punctured lung. The six-member court-martial panel returned its unanimous verdict after about two hours of deliberations. The panel also reduced Gray from Spec. 4 to private, forfeited all his pay and ordered him to be dishonorably discharged from the Army. Gray has appealed his case through the Army Court of Criminal Appeals (then known as the U.S. Army Court of Military Review) and the Court of Appeals for the Armed Services. In 2001, the Supreme Court declined to hear the case. Bush got the secretary of the Army's recommendation to approve Gray's death sentence in late 2005. Since then, it's been under review by the Bush administration, including the White House legal counsel. Complicating the administration's deliberation was a case under review this year by the Supreme Court. The court ruled in April to uphold the most common method of capital punishment used across the United States. The justices said the three-drug mix of lethal-injection drugs used by Kentucky and most other states does not constitute cruel and unusual punishment. The ruling in the case of Baze v. Rees cleared the way for a resumption of executions nationwide. It was unclear where Gray would be executed. Military executions are handled by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Bush's decision, however, is not likely the end of Gray's legal battle. Further litigation is expected and these types of death sentence appeals often take years to resolve. The military also has asked Bush to authorize the execution of Dwight J. Loving, who has been at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., since 1989 after being convicted of killing two taxicab drivers while he was an Army private at Fort Hood, Texas. But that request is not yet ripe for a presidential decision. The White House declined to discuss the case. Bush OKs execution of Army death row prisoner - Yahoo! News the man has been on death row for 20 years and along comes bush...leave it to captain execution himself...
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I bet if either of these fine veterans volunteered for Iraqi duty, their crimes would be forgiven. After all, we have skinheads, gang members, convicted felons, child molesters over there. Since the goal seems to be in Iraq for 100 years -- or whatever it takes for us to get control of all the oil in the Middle East -- we will need all the troops we can get.
And since both guys sounded like sociopaths, devoid of a conscience, our government would not have to worry about paying for PTSD treatment when they come back. Come to think of it, the Bush Administration has not fought the terr-er-ists, but maybe it has made it safer on our own soil -- by shipping all those criminals to Iraq.
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Kinda hard to disagree with Jr. on this one.
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Bingo. can't get too upset over this slimebucket
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Hell, the asshole's a strong argument in favor of Sha'ria law, and from the anti-theocracy guy that's saying something.
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No matter what he did, he's a citizen of the US and as such you should be wary of empowering the government to kill its 'of the people for the people'.
Life in a 8 X 8 serves justice.
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If a jury recommends capital punishment and the judge agrees that should be that up until the appeals process.
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Rape, robbery , and murder.
![]() Fry his ass. Too bad Old Sparkey has been retired. Seriously though - he has forfeited ANY reason to be kept alive. Justice demands he be put to death.
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Yep, we should not have to pay for the incarceration of someone this sick. It's not like we are barbarians about it either, simply say sorry but this is just best for everyone and give him the shot.
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