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Old 07-31-2008, 11:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up district judge says no one is above the law, bad news for bush aides

WASHINGTON - President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in an unprecedented dispute between the two political branches.

House Democrats called the ruling a ringing endorsement of the principle that nobody is above the law.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge John Bates said there's no legal basis for Bush's argument and that his former legal counsel, Harriet Miers, must appear before Congress. If she wants to refuse to testify, he said, she must do so in person. The committee also has sought to force testimony from White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten.

"Harriet Miers is not immune from compelled congressional process; she is legally required to testify pursuant to a duly issued congressional subpoena," Bates wrote. He said that both Bolten and Miers must give Congress all non-privileged documents related to the firings.

The ruling is a blow to the Bush administration's efforts to bolster the power of the executive branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Disputes over congressional subpoenas are normally resolved through political compromise, not through the court system. Had Bush prevailed, it would have dramatically weakened congressional authority in oversight investigations.

The administration can appeal the ruling.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called it "very good news for anyone who believes in the Constitution of the United States and the separation of powers, and checks and balances."

Democrats swiftly pledged to call Miers before the Judiciary Committee as soon as September to testify about whether the White House played any role in the firings of nine U.S. attorney's last year.

Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., said he hoped that Miers and Bolten do not appeal the ruling, but that was far from clear.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto and Justice Department spokesman Peter Carr said they were reviewing the opinion and declined immediate comment.

The committee's senior Republican, meanwhile, said he was pleased that the court ruled in Congress' favor. But Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, added that an ongoing showdown in federal court could ultimately curtail Congress' powers, and he urged Democrats and the White House to strike an agreement.

"Unfortunately, today's victory may be short-lived," Smith said in a statement. 'If the administration appeals the ruling, our congressional prerogatives will once again be put at risk."

Conyers signaled election-season hearings will be held on the controversy that scandalized the Justice Department and led to the resignation of a longtime presidential confidant, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"We look forward to the White House complying with this ruling and to scheduling future hearings with Ms. Miers and other witnesses who have relied on such claims," Conyers said in a statement. "We hope that the defendants will accept this decision and expect that we will receive relevant documents and call Ms. Miers to testify in September."

Bates, who was appointed to the bench by Bush, issued a 93-page opinion that strongly rejected the administration's legal arguments. He noted that the executive branch could not point to a single case in which courts held that White House aides were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"That simple yet critical fact bears repeating: the asserted absolute immunity claim here is entirely unsupported by existing case law," Bates wrote.

US judge: White House aides can be subpoenaed - Yahoo! News

well it's about time!!!! though i wonder if bush will have bates fired now....
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It would be nice if I thought the Supreme Court wouldn't overturn it...

One can dream, though...
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Harriet Miers is stupider than Gonzales, if that is possible. I will look forward to seeing her testify or refuse to testify on C-Span.

Judge Bates was appointed by Bush 43.
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This is the sleaziest and most arrogant administration in my lifetime.
Perhaps in the history of the country. They make Nixon look good.
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not sure if i follow.
they must respond, but can still claim Executive Privledge??

can anyone clarify the practicle effects??
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they must respond, but can still claim Executive Privledge??

can anyone clarify the practicle effects??
Just getting them in front of the committee will be a step. then once there anything said under oath, and all that. Have to get their asses in the seats first. then refusing to comment can get you a contempt charge. not to mention a perjury charge along the way for good measure.
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How much you wanna bet their lawyers are not graduates of Pat
Robertson's law school?
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Third tier lawyers! What's good for the SCOTUS is good enough for them!
Let Joe Pesci defend them.
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Just getting them in front of the committee will be a step. then once there anything said under oath, and all that. Have to get their asses in the seats first. then refusing to comment can get you a contempt charge. not to mention a perjury charge along the way for good measure.
got it. thanks.
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