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Old 08-01-2008, 06:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Anything that the "authorities" do not like, is made to disappear or are relegated to a marginalized position.

Harass a person till they want to commit suicide and then point the finger at them - state that here is the problem see we solved it. Of course it could have been another Cheney strategy to escalate the fear and this guy knew about it, so he had to go. (EXCLUSIVE: To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them).
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Doesn't anyone find it just a bit odd that a biochemist would off himself in such a way? He knows what would kill him the quickest.

Tylenol with codeine? That would take a few days.

There's way more to this story than you think. You just have to look for it.
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Sounds like this guy was an all-around nut.

Anthrax Suspect Was "Homicidal, Sociopathic" - August 1, 2008
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Sounds like this guy was an all-around nut.

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Yeah, I read that, too. I've read a lot on this today, and I'm not buying it. From my understanding the FBI was on this guy much the same way as they were with Hatfill. The government settled with him for about 6 million.

I don't know about you but that kind of treatment might put me in the nuthouse, too...

They can't have it both ways. He can't all the sudden be a nut...when before he was an employee for 30+ years, received awards and was well liked in his field.

Like I said, I ain't buying it.
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True, true. I also agree it is bizarre that he would use Tylenol to commit suicide, as that shuts simply down your liver, and there are probably easier, faster ways to go.
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I will be interested to see where this goes...

I wonder if the Grand Jury hearings can now go public because I would really like to see motive, here. Somehow the crazy kook story isn't sticking for me.

So, let's see where it goes...if it goes anywhere at all. I have very little faith in the MSM anymore...

There's always the blogs, I guess.
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Yes it is interesting. I have to wonder, if someone killed him, did they just force him to swallow the pills? And why did they choose Tylenol? It's just strange.
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Not only that...What if it didn't work??? I would say there's a better chance of docs keeping him alive than say a gunshot wound or a hanging...
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Exactly. But maybe the pills were the easiest way to make it look like suicide, if it were murder.....too much forensic evidence with gunshots, etc.
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Sounds like this guy was an all-around nut.

Anthrax Suspect Was "Homicidal, Sociopathic" - August 1, 2008
History - would like to see something with a date prior to 2008, complaints from others.

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protective order application filed by Jean Duley, program director of Comprehensive Counseling Associates.

Duley added that Ivins's psychiatrist called him "homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions,"

Her petition for a peace order, which was granted by a District Court judge, added that Ivins was hospitalized last month at Frederick Memorial Hospital and then transferred to Sheppard Pratt, a psychiatric facility. Ivins, Duley stated, "was to have commitment hearing July 16th/signed in vol. to get himself out."
This was all this year......
  • Was the psychiatrist a member of Joan's staff ?
  • If this guy was unstable where is the litany of police calls of complaints from neighbors and co-workers ?
  • Tylenol as a suicide tool of choice by a doctor ?
  • Just what is "Comprehensive Counseling Associates" ?
  • Did this guy have problems with anyone outside of this organization ? Neighbors, co-workers ?
  • A guy under Federal investigation, apparently knowing that they were and this shows up - why focus on the "program director" ?
Flip side, a nut case is a nut case and being the focus of an unstable individual is not a fun experience. This guy had credentials that made him appear respectable.

Either way, why is it that we cannot trust those that are allegedly in our service say ?

Solutions of convenience and deceit.... Modern "Law Enforcement" aint it grand, not guilty today, we will make you guilty tomorrow, does not matter who really did it.....
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