CosmicRocker

yes! that was some REAL SICK STUFF.

clearly not said tongue in cheek as my remark was.

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poetrychic

as sad as it is that things like this fall along party lines in death as they do in life, it doesn't excuse cosmic from being a giant jerk, making uncalled for remarks, about a [nice] man who may very lose his life because of some sicko who has a few screws loose...



then save it for when an [nefarious] activity is blamed or implied against them...this is not the situation for such a remark and all it does is make you look like an asshole...

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CosmicRocker

^ black humour. deal with it or not.

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HarperLee

This weekend I stated my opinion that the Clintons had themselves
to blame for losing the black vote. I backed up my assertion with
articles and quotes from several reputable sources, mainly quoting
Representative James Clyburn, a black man who is one of the most respected members of the House.

The response was the usual "Hillary basher" accusation, with no
counterarguments.

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CosmicRocker

actually you were acknowledged by me as showing due cause for the black vote.
You are correct.

I also brought up the fact that blacks were waiting to see if Obama was a viable candidate, before they jumped.

I think it was a combination of factors.

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ocealdia

Well.... I guess the shooter is dead? Did they have to kill him? It would be good to know his motive for doing this, could have been something personal, between him and the victim too, you never know.

Hopefully, the victim survives.

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EvilMonkey

How about we choose not to deal with it and ban your ass from this thread.

Apologies to everyone else in this thread discussing this serious event, carry on.

poetrychic

a little more info:

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A gunman barged into the Arkansas Democratic Party headquarters Wednesday and shot the state party chairman three times, critically wounding him, authorities and party officials said. The suspect was later shot during a 30-mile police chase and died, authorities said. Police said he was 51 years old, but have not identified him.

The gunman walked into the office and said he was interested in volunteering, said Sam Higginbotham, a 17-year-old volunteer at the headquarters.

"He said he was interested in volunteering, but that was obviously a lie," Higginbotham said. He said the man pushed his way past an employee to reach Chairman Bill Gwatney's office.

Police said the suspect fired three times. Authorities did not identify the victim, but Democratic Party officials confirmed the victim was Gwatney, a former state senator and a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention this month in Denver. Gwatney was hospitalized in critical condition.

The suspect was chased into Grant County, south of the capital, and apprehended after being shot, Hastings said. Police fired at the man but it wasn't known whether he also suffered self-inflicted injuries.

Millie McLain, a reporter for the Sheridan Headlight newspaper, said the suspect's blue truck was turned sideways along Arkansas 46 northeast of Sheridan. Emergency crews were loading the man onto a Med-Flight helicopter.

Moments before the Democratic headquarters shooting, a man with a gun threatened the building manager of the Arkansas State Baptist Convention headquarters seven blocks east. It wasn't known if the incidents were related.

Dan Jordan, the denomination's business manager, said the building manager asked the man what was wrong and that he said "I lost my job."

The state Capitol was locked down for about an hour until police got word the shooter had been captured, said Arkansas State Capitol police Sgt. Charlie Brice.

An impromptu vigil at University Hospital drew Gov. Mike Beebe and a number of state legislators who had worked with Gwatney.

"He's in very critical condition. The family is doing the best they can. They're shocked like the rest of us," said Sen. Bobby Glover.

House Majority Leader Steve Harrelson was at the state Capitol for a news conference on crime and that he didn't know of anyone who would want to harm Gwatney.

"You never think of something like this happening here in Arkansas," Harrelson said.

National Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean said the shooting was a shock.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to Chairman Gwatney and his family and we pray for his full and speedy recovery," Dean said. "While the investigation of this shooting continues, and our primary concern remains with Bill and his family, we commend the courageous and speedy action of law enforcement officials in apprehending the suspect."

Gwatney served 10 years in the state Senate. Gwatney was Beebe's finance chairman during Beebe's run for governor in 2006.

Sarah Lee, a sales clerk at a flower shop across street from the party headquarters, said that around noon Gwatney's secretary ran into the shop and asked someone to call 911.

Lee said the secretary told her the man had come into the party's office and asked to speak with Gwatney. When the secretary said she wouldn't allow him to meet with Gwatney, the man went into his office and shot him, Lee said.

FBI spokesman Steve Frazier said his agency was assisting in the investigation but could not offer any details. "We're aware of it. We're helping the state police right now," Frazier said.

Karen Ray, executive director of the Republican Party of Arkansas, sent her workers home early "out of an abundance of caution."

"Our hearts go out to everyone at the Democratic headquarters. What a tragedy," Ray said. "This is just a very upsetting, troubling and scary thing for our staff as well."


Gunman wounds Arkansas Democratic Party chairman - Yahoo! News

one thing is working for him, university hospital is not that far from the capitol building and they always have a few ambulances parked nearby since downtown is not quite the safest place you want to be...plus, university hospital is probably the best hospital in the city considering it's a teaching hospital and they always have the most up to date equipment and a top-notch staff...

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HarperLee

At the CNN website there is a crawl that says that Hillary Clinton's office is saying the Democratic chairman has died from the gunshot wounds.

They just announced his death on CNN-tv.
I am sorry.

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Malkavian

I thought it was if not funny, then sarcastic and on point at the very least... It's a common reaction by the Republicans to pretty much everything.

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