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Old 12-11-2007, 08:37 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Did you ever stop to think that it's more than likely the SOUL which was created in God's image? I highly doubt God is made of dust, so that rules out the fleshy part. I highly doubt God procreates outside of spirit form, as with Mary, so that rules out a gender. I also highly doubt that God needs to shit. That rules out the intestines and the rest of the gastro-intestinal tract. So, what is made in God's image?
I had this image of a ball of hyperdimentional energy behaving like some sort of single celled organism. Going through divisions and expanding into a colony of energy forms.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I had this image of a ball of hyperdimentional energy behaving like some sort of single celled organism. Going through divisions and expanding into a colony of energy forms.
Sounds like the result of God assigning Jesus to ignite the Big Bang and you entity expanded exponentially.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Now scratch computer games like Sid Meiser's CIVILIZATION for a moment. In those games you only play the eternal leader of one tribe/city-state/nation/empire.

Think of The Sims or Sim City or that older game where you're literally god competing with a rivel god for mortal followers and domion over a whole world. What kind of personality among us enjoys that? The game, Sim City was amusing to an extent, but eventually you have that evil impulse to bring disasters onto a city you worked so hard to plan, develop and maintain.

I never played The Sims, because watching people live their daily humdrum lives, in my estimation, didn't require a computer and I hate that soap operah shit anyway. I get more than me unfair share just within my own family.

As for the god game? Tried it for awhile, but too much effort and too difficult to get wily mortals to keep on the path I set. Constantly having to "amaze teh natives" with miracles and wonders, to then set them off for missionary work and even having to mold the land just ahead of where they'd step to aid their way. Fuck that shit! It's labor intensive! All while some wise-ass anti-god does the same thing to exact opposite ends just to fuck with'ya.



So if- as Christianity suggests, and the other Abrahamic religions somewhat elude to, that a real god has certain human aspects to it, then what? Think about this god sitting in front of its computer- or in front of its ant colony... watching... manipulating... brooding over every aspect of the lives fully within its unchallengable domion.

Would you trust it?

More importantly, I suppose, would you deem it worthy of the title "god?"

I suggest that whatever it is that passes for the real god [or gods- let's not be biased here] can't be remotely human. It has to be better, and possibly not even what we'd consider a person; something possessed with a personality. What if the god, in order to be all that's best in the universe and/or outside of the universe, has to be a thing, a phenomenon in order to pass muster? It still exudes unconditional love, omnipotent power and spiritual-intellectual illumination, just as a fire provides warming, versatility in purposes as well as light. But if it must be an impersonable thing to fit the bill would that not prove correct both the atheist and the theist/believer? And if so, is that so bad?

Questions?
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insults?

I may change my answer after reading other responses, but, here's what I think now:

The human game, as I understand it, has that free will concept. This allows the god to take a backseat - until asked otherwise. Now that frees god's time up considerably. Then there is the "forget while incarnated until otherwise" bit...it makes our lives like a poker game I suppose. From what I have read and understood, we make each incarnation on contract - with ourselves...not god. There's beauty in that. Lots.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Of course I would trust God. Pay no attention to that Mentor for he hates God. Note how Mentor always brings things back to himself. He wants to be his own god. Give God his credit for Mentor has produced not one atom nor a hair on his own head.

And if it produced the Big Bang, all of physics including quantum mechanics and all of the cosmos and created people, animals and plants and an earth to live on.........sure I would think him worthy of worship.

If you could do all that I would worship you.
I made the parking lot flood at my mom's work with my tears once...too bad I'll never tell you how...which is really why anyone worships anything - so they can steal the "process" for themselves. Hey Eman.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
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You have the concept. I see God in all of those systems. His imagination is awesome. Especially the details. His attention to detail is absolutely subatomic.
Sub-planck, even.
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No. That is eternal life on earth. And God made us from dust and when we die we return to dust. Jesus' resurrection showed how we would be resurrected back into physical form. And he died to wipe out original sin. The perfect sacrifice for the perfect sin. Everlasting life on earth. The Resurrection negates death and renders it irrevelant.
Perfect sin? Isn't that an oxymoron?
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I made the parking lot flood at my mom's work with my tears once...too bad I'll never tell you how...which is really why anyone worships anything - so they can steal the "process" for themselves. Hey Eman.
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Perfect sin? Isn't that an oxymoron?
No. If a perfect person commits a sin then it is a perfect sin. And needs a perfect judgment. Satan, a third of the angels, Adam and Eve, Sampson (and maybe I missed someone) were given perfection. If they sin (break God's law) they have commited a perfect sin and have no prospect for future life. The mortals will not be resurrected and the angels (including Satan) will be killed. God's justice requires it.
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Of course. I love pulling my hair out.

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