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Old 12-11-2007, 09:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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No. If a perfect person commits a sin then it is a perfect sin. And needs a perfect judgment. Satan, a third of the angels, Adam and Eve, Sampson (and maybe I missed someone) were given perfection. If they sin (break God's law) they have commited a perfect sin and have no prospect for future life. The mortals will not be resurrected and the angels (including Satan) will be killed. God's justice requires it.
I submit that given that the definition of sin is to miss the mark, that no "perfect" person could ever sin. Further, if a perfect sacrifice was needed to make up the your so-called perfect sin," then Jesus was still unnecessary. After all, if you believe Adam and Eve were perfect, and they died... Well, you do the math.
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No. If a perfect person commits a sin then it is a perfect sin. And needs a perfect judgment. Satan, a third of the angels, Adam and Eve, Sampson (and maybe I missed someone) were given perfection. If they sin (break God's law) they have commited a perfect sin and have no prospect for future life. The mortals will not be resurrected and the angels (including Satan) will be killed. God's justice requires it.
It must have sucked to be an angel that wasn't perfect.

Where do you get Sampson being given perfection?
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I submit that given that the definition of sin is to miss the mark, that no "perfect" person could ever sin. Further, if a perfect sacrifice was needed to make up the your so-called perfect sin," then Jesus was still unnecessary. After all, if you believe Adam and Eve were perfect, and they died... Well, you do the math.
Well even the perfect person has free will and has the choice to sin against God. Adam and Eve WERE perfect until they used their free will to break God's law. And they became imperfect and introduce evil and death into a perfectly designed system. So Jesus' perfect life was absolutely necessary to make up for this perfect sin to save the progeny of the original sinners though they themselves will not be resurrected.
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It must have sucked to be an angel that wasn't perfect.

Where do you get Sampson being given perfection?
He was blessed by God with the strength of a God. Just as Israel was selected as God's tribe. Just as David was selected and given special powers. There is much more pressure on you once you accept God and he accepts you. Sampson's strength was perfect until he allowed a woman to come between him and God.
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Spoken like someone who falls short...

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He was blessed by God with the strength of a God.
What do you mean, strength of "a" God? Was he as strong as "the" god or are there some other gods involved?

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Just as Israel was selected as God's tribe. Just as David was selected and given special powers. There is much more pressure on you once you accept God and he accepts you. Sampson's strength was perfect until he allowed a woman to come between him and God.
What happened to his original sin? Wouldn't that make him less than perfect?
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