GuitarWizard

Ok here are just a few quick references I lifted from the Internet with regards to "feeling's to just show a brief separation from personal feeling's
and the Holy Spirit .


David, upon bringing the ark into Jerusalem, rejoiced with dancing in the street.

The lame man of Acts 3, upon being healed, leaped with joy as he walked through the temple praising the name of God.

The Israelites, upon hearing Ezra magnify God, shouted in unison, 'Amen! Amen!'

Isaiah, upon seeing the Lord high and lifted up, fell upon his face in worship.

The angelic host, at the announcement of the Messiah's birth, broke forth in heavenly praise of our Lord.

Stephen, as he died at the hands of assassins, saw the glory of Christ and was filled with the peace and joy of God as he entered His presence.


And their are negative fealing's as well.


When working on the affections of people, Satan uses three tools-sentimentalism, sensationalism, and enthusiasm.

Sentimentalism confuses fuzzy, subjective feelings with the voice of the Holy Spirit. It deceives a person into following tradition rather than the clear Word of God. Sentimentalism blinds a person to the fact that the old-time religion of today is quite often the heretical modernism of a past century.

Sensationalism confuses outward demonstrations of power with the work of the Holy Spirit. It spellbinds people into believing that all signs and wonders are accurate measures of truth. Again, the Word of God takes second place to experience.

Enthusiasm, like sentimentalism and sensationalism, serves to blind those given up to it. Unstable members of a congregation begin to look for enthusiasm of worship rather than truth. A preacher who can stir emotions is considered filled with the Spirit while a sound expositor of Bible truth is considered dead and dry. Emotional enthusiasm becomes the standard by which all religious experience is measured. The Word of God is inconsequential.


So were does the Holy Spirit fit in with this ?

Well the Holy Spirit is considered the author of the bible and is a highly respected entity that gives us true guidance with accordance of God's word.
So to look at Simeon's attitude and actions after receiving the good news revealed to him by the Holy Spirit.

We see to common words "expecting" it apears twice He was "constantly expecting the Messiah"

He was "living in (expectation) of the salvation of Israel"

So there is no emotion involved but rather just an exceptance of an outcome to happen in the future.

Nothing more and nothing less ?

And that would seem to me represent an accurate picture of the character of the Holy Spirit as depicted by the word of God establishing him are his roll as more than just an emotional response on are part by what we would base a decision on such as an inner emotional reaction to an abstract thought.

But more of a directional thinking like an authoritative command someone are something telling you to go over their and your response would be ok.

Fallowing directions nothing more or nothing less is the way I would see it to be interpreted and understood.

Your thought's.

Heretic

Sounds to me like abstracts are anthropromorphized and given names. Some of your presumably most logical and intellectual people still use feelings to govern their decision making process to some degree at least. Stock brookers rely on similar instincts you'd otherwise see in wild animals [that's not a joke and not necessarily a bad thing].

When I described to someone one here how the stock market really is just another jungle, based on economic producers; atop that are financial grazer/consumers; and then predator and parasite institutions and firms; that's the sorts of personalities which contribute the the market. And, as with any untamed realm, the stock market has its own sharks cruising the numeral seas [hostile takeover capitalists].

Criminal investigators sometimes use a certain feeling to make a decision they later affirm with their more logical methods, and even scientific research occasionally falls back on "the hunch" or the "what the hell, let's try this just because" to get results.

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"Enough!!" -so rang Barack Obama's voice off the walls of Mile High Stadium

GuitarWizard

Yea and that is were my faith kick's in with a sound understanding and reasoning in knowing the diferance between experiencing a "feeling" and or a hunch which sometimes we are often wrong in basing decisions on are personal feeling's and a true presence are (living being )-Individual helping me find the truth and direction and that is a super natural thing.

And the author in presenting it's position continually tell's us that we all have feeling's it's a gift from God but that thay should not be the leading roll for basing are decision making but rather God's word and letting the Holy Spirit live and work in you as a living presance.

And I would bet that Simeon felt this way also and to understand God I don't think we can look at (are self's) what in Semion's action's depicted a feeling ?

What in his response to the Holy Spirit showed us a feeling ?

Heretic

When a feeling or hunch plays out wrong humanbeings tend to explain them off or- most often, forget they had them in the first place. Because of this those few feelings which lead us right are the ones we recall, and so our perception that was miraculous becomes more plausible in our minds.

See, what led you to credit the holy spirit someone else credits to another deity or phenomenon, to randomness, or just to their own unconscious. None of these answers is inherently more wrong or right, if any of them work for you, but keep things in perspective here.

When I'm faced with some dumbass driver who doesn't pay attention at the intersection right when I'm crossing it my motto's a wee off from yours: WWWD [what would wolves do]. That's the way I dodge traffic, as if side stepping rapid stampeding bison.

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"Enough!!" -so rang Barack Obama's voice off the walls of Mile High Stadium

GuitarWizard

Yea I think you might be overlooking the point though the scripture in question isn't really abought you are me .

It's abought Semion and how he reacted tword's being led by the Holy Spirit.

So my point is if a person really want's to Know the real "God" you need to be willing to Look for him as Semion did and I think people can know the real God if thay look in the right places.

And yea we do react as humans do in all situation's I am no different as a Christian people may think somehow being a Christian that we don't act out instinctively when faced with certain situation's but that is an entirely different topic.


So that is all I will say with regards to that...............


The question was did Semion have a feeling are not ?


Do you see that he did because I don't ?

Heretic

Seems to me the real god won't be found in any church or temple, however. Now that's a bit of Gnostic Christianity there, but the concept is also found in other religions. Besides, he ran into the nearest "holy place" he could find. Were he in Meso-America he might've given himself to Kukulkhan for sacrafice. A lot of what goes into determining one's most likely religion is geography.

The first thing is the fact the written story has been many times filtered so elements of context may be lost [mostly be accident, but not exclusively so]. But after than what Simon might call the holy spirit could just be a shift in horomonal balance leading to biochemical euphoria. At that day and age no one then would've known the difference.

Some have argued that Joan of Arc's visions of Archangel Michael and the voices of god were schitzophrenia. One of the reasons I don't tell others to believe my own spiritual experiences, even if I detail those moments, is because they'd want proof to believe. Simply saying I was overcome by a sense of the spiritual world isn't going to sell them on the idea. Unless they had something at least somewhat similar they're not inclined to relate to mine or trust my word alone.

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"Enough!!" -so rang Barack Obama's voice off the walls of Mile High Stadium

GuitarWizard

Doesnt that make faith even more blessed to believe in God that people dont really know for sure but you know and to see that his word is all true that it wasnt a man made lie but there is somthing more when we pass from this world to the next.

All I can think is how blessed are those that believe with blind faith.

Heretic

For those on whom it works, I suppose. But I still say it's more profound to have come from human beings than from a god.

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"Enough!!" -so rang Barack Obama's voice off the walls of Mile High Stadium

GuitarWizard

ahahah.....

Yep I stand in agreement with that.

GuitarWizard

Christ's Humanity

St. Luke ,2 :52

And Jesus increased in wisdome and stature,and in favour with God and man.

The basis for the doctrine of the Trinity is found in New Testament passages that associate the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.[21] Two such passages[21] are Matthew's Great Commission: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) and St Paul's: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all" (2 Corinthians 13:14).


God was jesus in human flesh which I believe in the trinity that God did not come from another God but from himslef.