Jesus vs God - Page 9

God Is Santa for Adults · 12-17-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

The universe did not happen by chance. The structure of DNA and the atom did not happen by chance. The laws of physics did not self establish without sentience. Jesus was the son of God who created the aforementioned 'miracles of chance' that you seem to promote.

Keep repeating that to yourself eman. Eventually it will become true...

...NOT

nroberts · 12-17-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by God Is Santa for Adults

Keep repeating that to yourself eman. Eventually it will become true...

...NOT

Isn't it interesting though? "The world is too complex to explain without an intelligence....therefor Jesus was born and died on the cross for all your sins so that you can accept him and live in happiness forever in a universe that isn't broken...or deny him and burn in hell for all eternity."

Must be a fun roller coaster they's on!

God Is Santa for Adults · 12-17-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeisureChrist

By that reasoning, we should never tell kids that there is no santa Claus, because Santa gives them hope.

Hey don't use me to help your side...

GuitarWizard · 12-17-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nroberts

So you think dieing is harder than living?

What kind of easy ass life have you got for yourself??

Good question nroberts.

And I can tell you I have had more troubles in life than you would ever want and I would like to give a better example of what Christ really endured and not just what we no of physical suffering.

But my quick answer to that is yea it is so if you think your worst day on earth compairs to your worst day beyond this life you wont like what you find if you are in separation from the presence of God now I say this without experiencing hell first hand with reguards to my personal experience's are an event that happened to me in my life that I can talk abought with first hand information.

So I must tell you that I base hell on my "faith" alone and believing in scripture and the depth of what I know from studying God's word because thank God I never saw it..

God Is Santa for Adults · 12-17-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nroberts

Isn't it interesting though? "The world is too complex to explain without an intelligence....therefor Jesus was born and died on the cross for all your sins so that you can accept him and live in happiness forever in a universe that isn't broken...or deny him and burn in hell for all eternity."

Must be a fun roller coaster they's on!

Yeah, you are too dumb to understand my meaning so just follow what I say because you have free will in the end.

nroberts · 12-17-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard

So I must tell you that I base that on my "faith" alone and believing in scripture and the depth of what I know from studying God's word.

You study the Koran too, huh?

mentor · 12-17-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard

Well I can tell you he felt ever stroke of pain in the flesh physically emotionally and even spiritually and did you know that it didn't stop there.
He even felt what a person will feel in hell.

God left him so that he would suffer the pain of though's that will suffer a life without God meaning spiritually dead forever.

And I would think that would be a tougher thing to make come to pass than the beauty of creation .

But he was God, so he already knew all of this. It was nothing to him.

Now, if there was no god and no hearafter, and a man sacrificed himself for the good of all, well that would be something. But God sacrificing himself, knowing he cannot be harmed, well that is no sacrifice at all...

GuitarWizard · 12-17-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nroberts

You study the Koran too, huh?

I have studied Greek and Hebrew translation but I work out of the king James bible but it is my quest to fully get an A+ in understanding the bible before I leap to another text what ever that may be speaking not to the Koran persay but to other religions in general I would love to study the Koran more I'm just not there yet I do cross reference checks with regards to translation's in my study process but have not yet taken on the responsibility to study another text in it's entirety .

Why be a jack of all trades and a master at none I guess is were I come from and I'm just referring that statement to myself that is a personal goal for me to continue studying the King James ver. before I move on to another.

But by cross-referencing scriptures it exposes me enough to greek and hebrew to be introduced to other sources but not so much as to take me away from the english translation.

Hope that answered your question.

LeisureChrist · 12-18-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by God Is Santa for Adults

Hey don't use me to help your side...

You dare to headbang at me?! Then you leave me no choice...

As your attorney, I advise you to continue rocking in the free world immediately.

nroberts · 12-18-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard

I have studied Greek and Hebrew translation but I work out of the king James bible but it is my quest to fully get an A+ in understanding the bible before I leap to another text what ever that may be speaking not to the Koran persay but to other religions in general I would love to study the Koran more I'm just not there yet I do cross reference checks with regards to translation's in my study process but have not yet taken on the responsibility to study another text in it's entirety .

So you're NOT studying the word of God. You said you were but you now admit you haven't even read the Koran once.

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