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Old 12-23-2007, 10:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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You people always say this like we simply follow some TV healer preacher like ignorant fools. To perpetuate this is to promote a misrepresentation, particularly to people like me. I have clearly conducted my own research and come up with my own conclusions. Many here would have to admit that I have presented a uniquely person view that combines many 'pro' aspects Christianity. Please do not apply this sheep label to people like me.
Since Gurn's entire point is that the path to understanding that which cannot be explained by another, but must be discovered for one's self, your very insistence that there are "people like" you shows that you do in fact crave the herd mentality.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:37 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Since Gurn's entire point is that the path to understanding that which cannot be explained by another, but must be discovered for one's self, your very insistence that there are "people like" you shows that you do in fact crave the herd mentality.
I have no need of the crowd for wide is the path to destruction and narrow is the path to life and righteousness.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:46 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I have no need of the crowd for wide is the path to destruction and narrow is the path to life and righteousness.
And you veerd from that narrow path long, long ago. The only righteousness you carry is self-righteousness.
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:44 PM   #44 (permalink)
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And you veerd from that narrow path long, long ago. The only righteousness you carry is self-righteousness.
Well I can only save myself. I can share the good news with others but it is up to them to save themselves. E-man cannot make those decisions for others. For it is their own free will they exercise.
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Well I can only save myself. I can share the good news with others but it is up to them to save themselves. E-man cannot make those decisions for others. For it is their own free will they exercise.
Most christian believe that only Jesus can same them. Apparently, you feel you are as capable as Christ.
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Most christian believe that only Jesus can same them. Apparently, you feel you are as capable as Christ.
Well accepting Christ as my savior oh silver tongued agnostic.
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You people always say this like we simply follow some TV healer preacher like ignorant fools. To perpetuate this is to promote a misrepresentation, particularly to people like me. I have clearly conducted my own research and come up with my own conclusions. Many here would have to admit that I have presented a uniquely person view that combines many 'pro' aspects Christianity. Please do not apply this sheep label to people like me.
If you stick to ideas of resurrection, trinity, "accepting Jesus as your personal savior", you do so because it is dictated to you to do so by men of clergy. If you do that, you are following other peoples ideas of how to worship God. Not to mention it's easy to dismiss ALL dogma since not all of it can be true. The very nature of organised religion today is based on fallacy and/or antiquated ideas of spirituality.
The fact that you believe the canonic story has no bearing on me or my beliefs.
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If you stick to ideas of resurrection, trinity, "accepting Jesus as your personal savior", you do so because it is dictated to you to do so by men of clergy. If you do that, you are following other peoples ideas of how to worship God. Not to mention it's easy to dismiss ALL dogma since not all of it can be true. The very nature of organised religion today is based on fallacy and/or antiquated ideas of spirituality.
The fact that you believe the canonic story has no bearing on me or my beliefs.
Well now I do not limit my knowledge about God, Jesus, [I dont believe in the Trinity], holy spirit and the Bible. I look to physics, science, logic, philosophy and my own two eyeballs for my conclusions. And those have led ME directly to God. No matter which way I turn in physics and logic, God is waiting there. The ignorance I see in science and scientists is their leaving God out of their equations. It crippled Eistein. It crippled Hawkin [no pun intended] and many others, including you.

Yet E-man walks in the knowledge that logic and science dictates that there HAS to be a God.
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