LeisureChrist

What would be the point? If he's all-knowing, he already knows what those he would consult with are going to say. Further, he already knows what he's going to do in the end regardless of what his consultants say. What kind of a logical God would ask for advice he never needed, already knew, and has no intention of following?

Sean

People use this religious babble to make themselves feel like they have some sort of worth; i.e. meaning in this life. Debating with them is like trying to answer a child's question as to why the sky is blue and they'll never understand the actual science and art behind it even when you shove that proof in their faces.

"Because he says so..."
"Because he wants/wishes it..."
"He works in mysterious ways..."

Always a "he;" like there would be a sex to such an entity.

Besides all of that they'll never leave well enough alone. They have to convert you. Even the morons who think there are only something like 50,000 souls that are going to make it into Heaven. They have well over this "limit" of souls in their church yet they continue to try and recruit more members. Maybe they are not confident that most of their members will make the cut, I don't know. I do know that if your chosen term for God told me only 50,000 or so people were getting into Heaven you can bet damn well I'm only letting the people I love know.

Environment Man

Not true. Because his consultants have free will he just migh take a suggestion. For instance, when Sampson request God to give him his powers back one more time to terminate philistines, God did it.

Environment Man

Surely you reside 'Inside the Beltway' with such cynicism. Just because we aggressively share information about our beliefs, the same way the pagans and atheists do, does not mean we are trying to convert you. Relax. You must convert you. I must present the facts in the face of fiction and voodoo science of evolution theory and atheistic mud god worship.

Sean

Yet you never have any facts to present; merely your blind belief. What's truly sad is that you think your beliefs are scientific proof. Just another brainwashed, sorry I know you prefer programmed, cow in the herd being led to slaughter.

Environment Man

Bull. I present facts all the time. You just choose to ignore them. Allow me to present some to you and lets watch you ignore them again. Design and system are proof of designers and engineers. The sun and stars are perfect fusion devices which are some of the most complex systems known to man. They do not and cannot ignite and sustain by chance. The atom is as complex as a star and the intricate structure shows the thoughts of the designer and builder. DNA could never evolve from chance. Sentient designers and builders clearly provided it for the sustainability and reproducability of life. Gravity and electromagnetis and the weak and strong nuclear forces are complex systems. We cannot even grasp or explain HOW gravity works. I could go on all day like this but you will ignore it.

Sean

No what you tend to ignore is logic; i.e. continuing to insist that energy has a conscience.

LeisureChrist

The only way for God to "take a suggestion" would be if was convinced that whatever he had intended prior to receiving this suggestion was a lesser plan than the suggestion received. Put another way, you do not need plan B unless eother plan A doesn't work or simply does not work as well as plan B. Are you suggesting that Sampson was smarter than God?

mentor

God can't "take a suggestion" or be convinced of anything. God knows the answer to everything already. That's what the bible says...

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Now the hard work begins...

Environment Man

You reject the power of Free Will that God gave us then.