Why does the existance of a god matter? - Page 5

LeisureChrist · 12-23-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

Had to get your insults in eh anti Christian? Yet you doubt and wonder and question when there ARE answers. So I will continue to pity you in your inclination for agnosticism. Nay atheism. You my assumptions are neither arrogant nor ignorant nor judgmental. They are accurate for you are lost. When you could be found. There are answers. You simply CHOOSE to reject them because you LIKE to wallow in doubt.

And I will pity the certainty that you already know the answers. because it not keeps you from seeking truth, it blinds you any truth you may accidentally stumble across.

Environment Man · 12-23-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeisureChrist

Just because there is no explanation that you can understand or accept does not mean that no explanation exists. If the whole of existence was limited to only the things one human mind can comprehend, it would be a tiny universe indeed.

Not if the scientist was observing at the moment when God created the tree. But since nobody has ever observed a tree springing into being from abject nothingness, your silly little notion of a God making a tree with 30 rings is pure conjecture. Why 30? Why not 900,000,000,000? Given the presumed age of the universe, that would be a tree to force some questions... To your specific and direct knowledge, did God ever create a tree with precisely 30 rings? Even assuming there is a God who made trees fully grown, you cannot know that they had rings. It would be akin to saying that God made Adam fully grown with an appropriate number of scars. Or that the rib he stole to craft Eve showed the signs of growth that normal adult human ribs show.

But most of all, you have just proven God does not exist. Do you have any idea how many people, both believers and questioners, have prayed that you would never, ever whip that stupid "30 rings in 30 seconds" nonsense again?

There is no such tree with that many rings. So it would not be a good example. The tree would have rings just as Adam would have a heart and lungs. Einstein loved the 30 ring 30 second analogy. Yet I have exceeded Einstein.

LeisureChrist · 12-23-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

There is no such tree with that many rings. So it would not be a good example. The tree would have rings just as Adam would have a heart and lungs. Einstein loved the 30 ring 30 second analogy. Yet I have exceeded Einstein.

Did Adam's ribs have growth marks on them?

Environment Man · 12-23-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LeisureChrist

Did Adam's ribs have growth marks on them?

I would say yes. Just as a tree created by God would have rings. Now ask me if Adam had a navel?

LeisureChrist · 12-23-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

I would say yes. Just as a tree created by God would have rings. Now ask me if Adam had a navel?

You would say yes. That's good to know. Now, where are the bones to prove it? No fossil record, no Adam.

gonzo · 12-23-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doctordog

All the people in this thread that get time off for Xmas should give the money back as it is a religious holiday. If they don't they are either believers and don't want to admit it or they are just hypocrites which is likely the case

Silly goose. Many of us that don't celebrate Xmas volunteer to work for those that *do* celebrate the holiday. Widen your thinking.

Xmas Day's predictable 911 calls:
(You can set your clock by 'em)

06:00-07:00 It's dead.
07:00-11:00 The overnight burglary (homes/cars) calls start pouring in.
11:00-14:00 The fire department starts getting dispatched for kitchen fires.
14:00-16:00 A few early drunk calls.
16:00-20:00 The early domestic battery calls start.
20:00-06:00 Domestics, robberies, violation of restraining orders, more drunks, neighbor problems...you get the drift.

I like working holidays. We see some pretty funny shit on holidays. (Well, WE think it's funny.)

Environment Man · 12-23-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Silly goose. Many of us that don't celebrate Xmas volunteer to work for those that *do* celebrate the holiday. Widen your thinking.

Xmas Day's predictable 911 calls:
(You can set your clock by 'em)

06:00-07:00 It's dead.
07:00-11:00 The overnight burglary (homes/cars) calls start pouring in.
11:00-14:00 The fire department starts getting dispatched for kitchen fires.
14:00-16:00 A few early drunk calls.
16:00-20:00 The early domestic battery calls start.
20:00-06:00 Domestics, robberies, violation of restraining orders, more drunks, neighbor problems...you get the drift.

I like working holidays. We see some pretty funny shit on holidays. (Well, WE think it's funny.)

You are a very sick person.

Environment Man · 12-23-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeisureChrist

You would say yes. That's good to know. Now, where are the bones to prove it? No fossil record, no Adam.

Logic is the bones. Science is the fossil record. God MUST exist for the universe to exist. Evolution theory expanded to cosmology, quantum mechanics and the Big Bang is useless. Keep it in the mud where it belongs.