mentor

Sentience is not a requirement for the existence of matter. Rather the inverse is true. Matter is required for the existence of sentience.

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Brainpolice

As I've said before, any attempt to prove the creation of the universe, either religious or scientific, falls back into a paradox. If a deity created the universe, where did the diety come from? And if you can point to another entity that it derived from, where did that derive from? The problem keeps reasserting itself. In order to escape the paradox, your only option is to play the eternity card without any evidence to back it up. The same is true of the big bang and "the singularity". Multiverse theory has attempted to get around the problem by asserting that the creation of a given universe is the result of a cosmic collision between universes, but it hasn't solved anything because the question still arises as to how the multiverse came into existance.

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Environment Man

But matter cannot form itself into complex systems such as stars, atoms and even the Earth. That requires sentience.

Environment Man

Logic dictates that there had to be an entity that always has been and always will be and is all powerful. That ends the chicken and egg conundrum and explains the Big Bang and the laws of physics.

slowhand

You didnt really think they would find life on the moon did you?..

The jury is still out as to whether life existed on Mars or not..As vast as the universe is, the possibility of life is more probable than not..But your "religion" wont allow you to go there

mentor

There is no evidence of sentience ever producing one atom. But lots of evidence of all kinds of sentience evolving from matter. "Requires sentience" is a hypothesis only, and one with far less support than it's inverse: "Sentience requires matter"

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Curator

So then in your mind nothing has evolved? Necks do not get longer to reach the tender new shoots at the tops of trees, nor do tongues get longer to reach for insects buried in their holes?

I guess certain moths did not change the pattern on their wings due to pollution discoloring the bark on trees on which they roosted.

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Titanium Cat

SETI examines radio transmissions, there are many life forms that don't use or are capable of making long distance radio transmissions. And since most earth like planets will be thousands or even millions of light years away, it would take a very long time for their signals to reach earth. We might have to wait a long time.

The Hubble Telescope cannot see planets, how do you expect it to see actual life forms.

No it does not, science has only began to seriously search for other planets and that search is in its infancy. It is highly unscientific to draw a conclusion of that sort at this point.

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Where the hell is E-man?

Environment Man

Well it supports my creation fact MORE than it supports your spontaneous generation of life theory.

Environment Man

Well explain how the atom evolved into existence. You will say that it always has been but there is structure and design there. Order. It did not self construct and it is the basic building block of your matter. Sentience HAD to come first to design and build the atom.