I Believe = I Guess. - Page 3

Environment Man · 01-04-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Just...eyewwww. I had a neighbor back in the early 70's when I rented in an apartment building in college. She had a pet rabbit running around in her house. The thing shit everywhere. I can't imagine living in shit or running around all day and night with a pooper scooper in my home.

I had the equivalent of a rabbit condo in one room of my house. The shit was contained with their domicile. I beleive it was 3 rabbits. Nice house pets.

Curator · 01-04-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

I know for a fact that God designed and initiated the Big Bang (Instant). It is the only logical and scientific conclusion.

If you believe in the big bang and all that followed for a billion years, then you cannot believe in the Book of Genesis, for mans existence is not a billion years old.

The question whether our universe was a consequence of intelligent design of some being, or it came into existence by accident cannot be answered one way or the other. There are views – religious and scientific – about it but there is no definite knowledge and probably never will be.

I choose to believe it is what it is, and not to believe in some magical being that waved his wand and *poof* made the universe.

Environment Man · 01-04-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Curator

If you believe in the big bang and all that followed for a billion years, then you cannot believe in the Book of Genesis, for mans existence is not a billion years old.

I do believe in the Book of Genesis. It is the most logical and scientific explaination. Time is relative to the observer and whether 6 quadrillion or 6 trillion or 6 billion or 6 thousand or 6 seconds is irrelevant because to get the infinities of the universe energy had to move faster than the speed of light.

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Originally Posted by Curator

The question whether our universe was a consequence of intelligent design of some being, or it came into existence by accident cannot be answered one way or the other. There are views – religious and scientific – about it but there is no definite knowledge and probably never will be.

It can be answered and should be answered and HAS to be answered for the discerning mind. Maybe you simply punt on it but there IS an answer.

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Originally Posted by Curator

I choose to believe it is what it is, and not to believe in some magical being that waved his wand and *poof* made the universe.

A rejection of the real answer and an ostrich's view. Yet you apply the existence to 'poof' by chance existence. Your view is no better than my view except I have a rational explanation and you choose to just say 'it happened.'

Curator · 01-04-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

It can be answered and should be answered and HAS to be answered for the discerning mind. Maybe you simply punt on it but there IS an answer.

Yet your answer is magic. Nice try.

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

A rejection of the real answer and an ostrich's view. Yet you apply the existence to 'poof' by chance existence. Your view is no better than my view except I have a rational explanation and you choose to just say 'it happened.'

Your fault is you believe your explanation is rational when it is not. It is your opinion, which are like assholes.

Environment Man · 01-04-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Curator

Yet your answer is magic. Nice try.

My answer was not magic at all but a reasonable, logical and scientific explanation. Whereas you have none. Thus my postulation is clearly superior for there IS an answer to the question. You simply throw you hands in the air instead of using your mind.

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Your fault is you believe your explanation is rational when it is not. It is your opinion, which are like assholes.

ad hominem. I must be winning the debate.

Titanium Cat · 01-04-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

I do believe in the Book of Genesis. It is the most logical and scientific explaination. Time is relative to the observer and whether 6 quadrillion or 6 trillion or 6 billion or 6 thousand or 6 seconds is irrelevant because to get the infinities of the universe energy had to move faster than the speed of light.

By that logic energy would have to move at infinite speed. Of course you are completely wrong, the universe is not infinite.

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It can be answered and should be answered and HAS to be answered for the discerning mind.

What about for you?

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Maybe you simply punt on it but there IS an answer.

But it sure isn't your answer.

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A rejection of the real answer and an ostrich's view. Yet you apply the existence to 'poof' by chance existence. Your view is no better than my view except I have a rational explanation and you choose to just say 'it happened.'

E-man <> rational, a truism.

The E-ape gets fed three more dancing bananas.

Environment Man · 01-04-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

By that logic energy would have to move at infinite speed. Of course you are completely wrong, the universe is not infinite.

God DID move the infinite universe into infinity instantly. And the soft parts (matter/energy/galaxies) were moved out faster than the speed of light, thus the appearance of billions of light years when if the universe evolved then stars should be popping into the sky all the time. They do not.

The E-ape gets fed three more dancing bananas.[/quote]

You like those danceing bananas. And I see you added commentary to the Gort ape. Ah Cat. You have become the ultimate paparazzi stalker critic. Eman does tend to grow them in the mushroom shack.

Titanium Cat · 01-04-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

God DID move the infinite universe into infinity instantly. And the soft parts (matter/energy/galaxies) were moved out faster than the speed of light, thus the appearance of billions of light years when if the universe evolved then stars should be popping into the sky all the time. They do not.

You are going totally senile! As that NASA link indicated there are new stars being formed. However because the density of the universe is so much less than it was shortly after the big bang, there is much less clumping of matter and new star formation. The universe is still expanding (can you say Doppler red shift? I knew you couldn't).

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You like those danceing bananas.

I do! I have to admit that I wasn't a big emoticon fan before but the dancing bananas have given me an epiphany.

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And I see you added commentary to the Gort ape. Ah Cat. You have become the ultimate paparazzi stalker critic. Eman does tend to grow them in the mushroom shack.

Which you fertilize with your infinite supply of bullshit.

Only one dancing banana this time, you're going to get hungry.

God Is Santa for Adults · 01-04-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

I've never seen a rabbit do that even though I have had them as house pets. So that is 'your' belief.

I know for a fact that God designed and initiated the Big Bang (Instant). It is the only logical and scientific conclusion.

they do it at night when we are not watching. I have seen the videos.

God Is Santa for Adults · 01-04-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AuCanada

From what I've gathered from the media, you sound more convincing saying "I believe" than "I think"... as if thinking implied you weren't sure. Strange.

I believe that is the religion conditioning most of us have been subjected to.

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