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Old 01-04-2008, 03:11 PM   #41 (permalink)
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dude, it is part of his digestive track. their stomachs are like cows, just in different order.

One of the most interesting aspects of a rabbit's body is his digestive system. Unlike a cat or dog, rabbits can eat a wide variety of plant material. They can process and extract nutrients from many plants that are indigestible to less adaptable herbivores or omnivores. This ability helps make rabbits highly successful in a variety of environments around the world. Understanding how your rabbit's digestive system functions is important so that you can feed him in a way that's most efficient for his body.

Munching on fiber
Rabbits are herbivores, meaning that they dine only on plant material. A rabbit has an esophagus, stomach, and intestinal tract like other mammals. However, because they often dine on plants that are high in fiber, they have developed a strategy for dealing with this called hind gut fermentation. This is where the indigestible materials break down into manageable chemicals. Many other herbivore friends, including horses, guinea pigs, and chinchillas, also have this specialization of the digestive system.


Rabbits have a large stomach for their body size to enable them to eat large amounts of plant material quickly. They are crepuscular, meaning they eat primarily at dawn and at dusk. They don't need to eat small amounts all day long. They graze primarily in the a.m. and p.m. with little else during the rest of the day, depending on what's available, the weather, and so on. Rabbits can do nicely eating a large meal twice a day.

The digestive process begins in the rabbit's mouth. The rabbit's prehensile lips grab the plant material first and then the front teeth called incisors — four upper and two lower — neatly slice off pieces of plant matter. The food is then passed to the molars (the back teeth), where it's chewed into small particles and finally swallowed.

All of the rabbit's teeth grow continuously throughout its life. If he is on a good diet and receives additional materials to munch on throughout the day, he is less likely to pick something else, such as your couch legs, your bed legs, or your legs.


Dining on delicacies
Taking a purely scientific look at the digestive system of a rabbit reveals a fascinating process. These animals have a particularly efficient way of dealing with the indigestible parts of their plant diet.

Rabbits have a very large blind sac called a cecum that is located where the small intestine and the large intestine join together. This would be in the same place as our appendix, but in the rabbit this organ is very large and contains a wonderfully diverse population of healthy bacteria, yeast, and other organisms working to help the rabbit digest his food.


When the food in the small intestine reaches the cecum and large intestine, the gastrointestinal tract knows which materials to divert into the cecum for further breakdown. The materials that were already digested in the small intestine and that don't need to make this little side trip to the cecum pass directly into the large intestine as waste. This leaves the body as the little round droppings you see in your rabbit's litter box.

What is happening in the cecum? The multitude of microorganisms are breaking down the indigestible fiber and turning it into digestible nutrients. In order for the rabbit to use these nutrients he must take this material and move it through the digestive tract one more time. So, at certain times of the day (which coincides with several hours after a rabbit eats a big meal) the material from the cecum is packaged up into small round moist pellets called cecotropes. The rabbit gets a signal in his brain about when these little delicacies are ready to be passed out of the body; he eats them the minute they emerge. Your rabbit will often look like he is grooming his hind end, but actually he is taking in these nutrient-rich cecotropes.(shit pellets)
The various types of fiber in a rabbit's diet is not only there to be used for nutrition, but is they are vital to keeping the rabbit's gastrointestinal tract in excellent working order. The indigestible fiber is particularly important in making the intestines move along smoothly. You could think of it as sort of "tickling" the lining and keeping things moving smoothly. A diet that is low in appropriate types of fiber and too high in rich carbohydrates can lead to a sluggish intestine and cecum and subsequent serious disease.

Normally you don't see any cecotropes in your rabbit's cage; at the most, you'll see a rare one here or there. Cecotropes are soft, green to brown, mucous coated, and have a stronger smell than the waste pellets. If you see a number of them in your rabbit's cage, it may indicate a diet too rich in protein or another, more serious condition. Please consult your vet.




see, I'm not makeing this up.
You really like rabbits and the topic of rabbits eating shit. Then why are there so many round balls just laying around wherever rabbits are instead of all of them being eaten. They don't shit that much.
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Admittedly I am advancing the Big Bang theory into a superior and more accurate model. It is a little hard to comprehend for the smaller minds the theologically oriented theoretical physicists have not problem understanding Eman's postulation.
Could you name a couple of those physicists?

Again this is current big bang theory:


And this is your big dung theory:


I think I will stick with the former, the latter stinks.
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I can go with the illustration except for the time line. It happened instantly. You will have to admit that it had to move faster than the current speed of light to get the obvious distances that we can observe at night.

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I can go with the illustration except for the time line. It happened instantly.
LOL, there is no point in having the stages in the illustration if there isn't a timeline! If it happened instantly then you eliminate everything between the big bang and now. You get one dancing banana for that one.

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You will have to admit that it had to move faster than the current speed of light to get the obvious distances that we can observe at night.
Uhh no I don't have to admit it because it's not true. It's taken about 14 billion years to reach the current stage of the universe.

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LOL, there is no point in having the stages in the illustration if there isn't a timeline! If it happened instantly then you eliminate everything between the big bang and now. You get one dancing banana for that one.

Uhh no I don't have to admit it because it's not true. It's taken about 14 billion years to reach the current stage of the universe.

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14 billion years is not nearly enough time to get the distances I can readily see in the night sky. Some secular idiot just picked that number out of the sky. It is a bad guesstimate. The universe was blinked in infinitely and then the energy/matter/stuff was rolled out very fast, which is the 14 billion estimate based on bullshit. But if it was not placed in position to expand, as I said, stars should be forming all the time and blinking in. It is constant. Even the Big Dipper. A slow rollout over time would be one big muddy mess, particularly at the quantum level. The quantum level is perfect evidence of my postulation because it could not have taken 14 billion years to get THAT infinity. It too happened instantly.
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Faulty premise. Faulty conclusion. Your premise suggests that believers are simply depending on belief instead of proof. You simply reject the proof as proof, whereas in other aspects of your life such proof would be proof enough.

Intelligent Design does not say 'intelligent' for no reason or 'design' for no reason. It is not belief that a car was designed and constructed by designers and engineers. You did not SEE them assemble it in Japan but you normally assume that the car occurred through I.D. You could track it back to its source and watch cars being constructed but you have not done that.

We can track existence back to the Big Bang (Instant) and reasonably conclude that it 'did not just happen.' That is entirely reasonable and scientific. Science itself utilizes assumptions to get to laws. And logic is used when there is no direct factory to see workers putting together the car (we believe in black holes and dark matter though we cannot directly see or verify them).
OK, E-man, i'll bite. I did not see my car being built, but if i demanded enough , i could. If you can show God in a workshop, making universes, i'll most definitely become a true believer. As is though, your car analogy is a bit more complicated.

If i see a person with car, there are several options - first, he indeed built it himself. Second, he got it as a gift/bought it. Third, he stole it. Option 2 is the most widespread, followed by 3. Option 1 is a distant last. Therefore, how do i know your God didn't just steal our Universe from somebody else?

Or bought it from a store for his teenage son to wreck? (that'd explain a lot, actually ). Bible doesn't say if Jesus is a good driver, you think it's a coincidence? I think not... God was probably too embarrassed by the insurance bill. So... i'm not buying it until i see a receipt
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14 billion years is not nearly enough time to get the distances I can readily see in the night sky.
LOL, please tell me what objects you can readily see in the night sky that are over 14 billion light years away! Name a star in such a galaxy. With the most powerful telescopes you can see farther of course. Addition: Farther than with the eye, but not farther away than light can travel in 14 billion years.

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Some secular idiot just picked that number out of the sky.
You mean like many famous physicists? And you still haven't named those physicists you claim that have no problem understanding your theory, why not?

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It is a bad guesstimate.
No it is a fairly accurate calculation now. They measure how fast it is expanding using the change in distances between stars and then work their way back using general relativity.

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The universe was blinked in infinitely and then the energy/matter/stuff was rolled out very fast, which is the 14 billion estimate based on bullshit.
You get a dancing banana for repetitive nonsense.

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But if it was not placed in position to expand, as I said, stars should be forming all the time and blinking in.
That's what you said because you don't understand physics. It's already been explained that the density of the universe is now too low for the clumping of matter needed to create stars to happen very often.

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It is constant. Even the Big Dipper.
LOL, because you've been observing it for years and it still looks the same, right??? You get a dancing banana for that one.

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A slow rollout over time would be one big muddy mess, particularly at the quantum level.
LOL, the "slow" rollout over the period of quantum time was 10-43 of a second. Another banana!

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The quantum level is perfect evidence of my postulation because it could not have taken 14 billion years to get THAT infinity. It too happened instantly.
Well 10-43 of a second is damn close to instantly!
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Wouldn't the exponential force created by the big bang accelerate in all directions, thereby gaining the speed needed to "fan out" and spread the stars/planets/moons accross the universe in this "14 billion year" time frame?
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Besides, 14 billion years is a hellaciously long time, so why couldn't all we see have been created in that time period?
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LOL, please tell me what objects you can readily see in the night sky that are over 14 billion light years away! Name a star in such a galaxy. With the most powerful telescopes you can see farther of course.
Well 'see' as in look out there. The Hubble Telescope cannot see the end. And a Hubble that is 10 million times more powerful would not see the end. It would still SEE more stars and more galaxies. So 14 billion light years is ridiculous and will be discarded once the next more powerful telescope shows even more infinity. The blackness of the night sky is infinite. I can see that with my eyes.

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You mean like many famous physicists? And you still haven't named those physicists you claim that have no problem understanding your theory, why not?
Google 'scientists who believe in God.' You will get plenty. Or 'physicists who believe in God.' And stop asking ME to do your homework for you. If you are that curious look it up. I am usually working and doing that for more profitable purposes.

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No it is a fairly accurate calculation now. They measure how fast it is expanding using the change in distances between stars and then work their way back using general relativity.
Expanding from what? See that is your problem. From where? It looks to be infinite in all directions to me. So where is your beginning point? You cannot find one.

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That's what you said because you don't understand physics. It's already been explained that the density of the universe is now too low for the clumping of matter needed to create stars to happen very often.
Eman IS physics. And God is in the equation. So you admit that things moved very quickly. You basically agree with my Big Instant. We are in agreement. It slowed down so stuff could clump some. But not stars. It would take too long for that sort of clumping you describe. And it would have had to happen perfect an infinte number of times and synchronized to occur at about the same time to get the uniformity you see in the night sky.

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LOL, the "slow" rollout over the period of quantum time was 10-43 of a second. Well 10-43 of a second is damn close to instantly!
You are agreeing with my Big Instant.
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