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Old 01-19-2008, 10:58 AM   #121 (permalink)
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in a weird way i understand what he is saying.
Yes it's called "Action and reaction. You can't have one without the other, but I'm not refering to any God as far as that goes. My point was he made no sense and people react when there is no rational snese to a statement
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:59 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Our debt is relative to our military strength for nobody can collect without our consent.
But they can stop lending you the money and your dollar will fall even more and the price of oil will rise accordingly all of which will not be good.

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They are probably being used. America has a history of not honoring its word.
Yet you declare it a Christian nation, what does that say?

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The dollar will rule as long as our military rules the world. We control the flow of oil out of the Strait of Hormuz.
Again the threat of force, another wonderful "Christian" tradition.

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We get oil from the barbarians in Canadian anyway. And Mexico. Canadians do not know what to do with oil.
Ahhh but Canada cannot bump up it's oil production quickly, it requires huge amounts of energy and water to make it from the tar sands. A drop in Middle East oil exports would send the price of oil soaring even higher.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:09 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Do you want America to be successful in Iraq? Do you want us to lose?
First stop lying. You admit that the reasons for the invasion and for the occupation of Iraq were NOT to help the Iraqi people but were for American hegemony. You, like the Bush administration, are just using the Iraqi people and the excuse of trying to help them to justify American interference and dominance in the Middle East. You are being dishonest and the rest of the world knows it. The baby Jesus is crying.

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If we ARE successful, the Iraqi people WILL be better off.
Fat chance for the hundreds of thousands that already lay dead. And they don't want to be "helped" the way you are helping them now.

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Ask Japan.
Japan did not want to split into three parts and did not require a huge police keeping force to prevent it from doing so.
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Ask Germany.
East Germany was forcibly split off and the people there suffered for half a century because of it.

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Ask Canada.
LOL!

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You are so confused about the nature of free will. It is not free if God controls it. He has relinquished power over our wills.
But not over our actions. Or Lucifer’s actions. Which he could put a stop to if he wished.

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But that does not mean that we can break his rules. Lucifer chose to oppose God in Heaven.
And accordingly god continues to permit him to oppose him rather than destroying him.

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You cannot oppose God.
Lucifer is and he is still going strong!

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You cannot even eat from a tree he tells you to not eat from.
What trees are god telling me I can’t eat from?

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Old 01-19-2008, 11:14 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Yes it's called "Action and reaction. You can't have one without the other, but I'm not refering to any God as far as that goes. My point was he made no sense and people react when there is no rational snese to a statement
People also react to the truth, particularly when logically viable.

God always has been so there is no action 'before' him for there is no such thing.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:17 AM   #125 (permalink)
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But they can stop lending you the money and your dollar will fall even more and the price of oil will rise accordingly all of which will not be good.
You are so negative. There is no other game in town besides the mighty mighty USA. So we will lead the game regardless of the circumstances.

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Yet you declare it a Christian nation, what does that say?

Again the threat of force, another wonderful "Christian" tradition.
Yet Christians are not perfect and it is Satan's world right now.

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Ahhh but Canada cannot bump up it's oil production quickly, it requires huge amounts of energy and water to make it from the tar sands. A drop in Middle East oil exports would send the price of oil soaring even higher.
Whatever it takes we will do. Melt the snow in Canada and there is plenty of water for the oil sands. Use nuclear power for all.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:19 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Eman's desire for VIP status has nothing to do with numbers or time but justice. Eman simply believes a superhero should be on the list to balance the body. And it is to HELP the body and the general board just as President Bush is helping the Iraqi people.
Can we leave Bush out of this?
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:20 AM   #127 (permalink)
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People also react to the truth, particularly when logically viable.

God always has been so there is no action 'before' him for there is no such thing.
If God has always been there then why is there so much hate and pain over the centuries? And by the way, when we have to pay people in Iraq to not shoot at us then we have lost!
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:21 AM   #128 (permalink)
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You are so negative.
It's called realistic.

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There is no other game in town besides the mighty mighty USA. So we will lead the game regardless of the circumstances.
But unlike decades ago there are forces emerging to challenge your game.

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Yet Christians are not perfect and it is Satan's world right now.
Ahh yes, the GREAT EXCUSE rather than taking responsibility for your actions and correcting your ways.

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Whatever it takes we will do. Melt the snow in Canada and there is plenty of water for the oil sands. Use nuclear power for all.
What about in the summer? And it will take even more energy to melt it. LOL! There are no nuke plants being built right now, it would be decades before any were online.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:22 AM   #129 (permalink)
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First stop lying. You admit that the reasons for the invasion and for the occupation of Iraq were NOT to help the Iraqi people but were for American hegemony. You, like the Bush administration, are just using the Iraqi people and the excuse of trying to help them to justify American interference and dominance in the Middle East. You are being dishonest and the rest of the world knows it. The baby Jesus is crying.
You do not believe in Jesus so stop pimping him.

The rest of the world can think what they will. When the rubber meets the road we have to do the heavy lifting. I think you hate America. I Iraqi people will thank us one day for our help.

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Fat chance for the hundreds of thousands that already lay dead. And they don't want to be "helped" the way you are helping them now.
You number is such an over estimate. You hate America and want us to fail in Iraq and the Middle East.

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Japan did not want to split into three parts and did not require a huge police keeping force to prevent it from doing so.
East Germany was forcibly split off and the people there suffered for half a century because of it.
Well it is an imperfect world but we do the best we can. You better hope nothing happens to the U.S. because we protect Canada.

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But not over our actions. Or Lucifer’s actions. Which he could put a stop to if he wished.

And accordingly god continues to permit him to oppose him rather than destroying him.
To prove to all looking on that humanity cannot manage itself without God so rebellion is futile. And the debate with Satan will be over forever.

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Old 01-19-2008, 11:23 AM   #130 (permalink)
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If God has always been there then why is there so much hate and pain over the centuries? And by the way, when we have to pay people in Iraq to not shoot at us then we have lost!
It is not God's fault. Humanity through the original pair chose to rebel against God saying humans could manage better without God. So dont blame God for our mess. We chose this path. And God is allowing it to play out.
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